[60] John 10: The Doorkeeper and the 2 Flocks

1 Truly, Truly I say to you, He that does not enter into the fold of the sheep through the door but goes up some other way, that one a thief is and a plunderer [double description with nouns used descriptively?].
2 But he that enters through the door is [a] shepherd of the sheep.
3 The doorkeeper opens to this one, and the sheep listen to his voice, and he calls the owned/specified (idia) sheep by name and leads them out.
4 When he has got all the owned/specified [ones] out, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, because they know his voice.
5 A stranger they will by no means follow but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.
[6 Jesus spoke this comparison to them; but they did not know what the things meant that he was speaking to them] (John 10).

And God's ex people the JWs have not known. But today, you will know. This is a reader statement - see [Reader Questions].

The fold cannot be the 1NC because the shepherd leads the sheep out of the fold. So the fold is the TCC1 or TCC3 (the congregations of the 1EC and the 3EC).

Event Symbolism 

1 Truly, Truly I say to you, He that does not enter into the fold of the sheep [the worship house of Judah under law] through the door [The Law of Moses, defining the shepherds to be the Levites] but goes up some other way [Politics], that one a thief is and a plunderer.
2 But he that enters through the door [Either a levitical shepherd or the Messiah, the Prophet referred to by Moses] is [a] shepherd of the sheep.
3 The doorkeeper [Moses] opens to this one [by scripture], and the sheep [the faithful amongst the sons of Israel] listen to his voice [message], and he calls the owned/specified (idia) sheep by name [the shepherd calls faithful named ones who are already spirit baptised from heaven into the 1NC] and leads them out [of the law covenant].
4 When he has got all the specified (idia) [ones] out [of the law], he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, because they know his voice [message].
5 A stranger [Non levitical, unclean Pharisees] they will by no means follow but will flee from him [out of the Law of Moses], because they do not know the voice of strangers.
[6 Jesus spoke this comparison to them; but they did not know what the things meant that he was speaking to them] (John 10).

The Word Symbolism

1 Truly, Truly [successive exclamation, immediate repetition - this means two fulfilments among all word threads?] I say to you, He that does not enter into the fold of the sheep [the 1EC or the 3EC] through the door [Jesus, the mediator of the 1NC, the door for the shepherd, the door to angelic life] but goes up some other way [falsely claims to be a 1NC saint], that one a thief is and a plunderer.
2 But he that enters through the door [Jesus, by being baptized into his name, the 1NC] is [a] shepherd of the sheep [1NC saints in FDS1 or 1NC saints in FDS3].
3 The doorkeeper [The Keykeeper, Peter, with the key to the heavenly temple] opens [the door for the sheep] to this one [by accepting those sanctified into the various calls into the 1NC of Leah], and the sheep [the sons of the 1NC in TCC1 and TCC3] listen to his voice [message], and he calls the owned/specified (idia) sheep by name [whilst inside the sheep pen himself, he recognises the 1NC status of the named sanctified sheep] and leads them out [of the 1EC, the covenant of the water baptism of TCC1 or the 3EC, the covenant of the water baptism of TCC3].
4 When he has got all the specified (idia) [ones] out [of TCC1 and TCC3], he goes before them [after all the saints are in TCC4 then Jesus takes over], and the sheep follow him [into TCC2 or TCC4. So all the sheep are specified, they are all sanctified], because they know his voice [The door keepers voice. It is the Job of the remnant to save themselves - seen this in Esther].
5 A stranger [leader of the next true church] they will by no means follow but will flee from him [having taken his baptism], because they do not know the voice of strangers [they do not relate LW presentation of interpretations. They need to be led to the new church by a voice they know].
[6 Jesus [John] spoke this proverb/comparison to them [the sheep not following strangers proverb]; but they did not know what the things meant that he was speaking to them] [first understood on 2012Ab6, Friday 00:03] (John 10).

There are two fulfilments (resulting from 'Truly, truly' and possibly 'thief and plunderer') but only one word symbolic thread. The above was said to the Pharisees. But Jesus would not have explained it to them. The above account runs from John 9:1 to John 10:6 perhaps. We need to count it. Jesus (8). So below is a new account??

Jesus' explanation:

Event Symbolism

7 Therefore Jesus said again: Truly, truly I say to you, I [today] am the door of the [1NC] sheep [of both presences].
8 All those that have come in place of me thieves are and plunderers; but the sheep have not listened to them.
9 I am the door; whoever enters through me will be saved, and he will go in [to the first TCC in a presence] and out [of the first TCC of the presence] and find pasturage [in the second TCC of the presence. TCC1/TCC3 were pens, dark, secure, restrictive, TCC2/4 are pasturages, light, loads of food and freedom. Sheep are penned up in the evening, the first part of the Hebrew day, representing the first church of a presence and free to roam and eat in the morning, the second part of the Hebrew day, representing the second church of the presence].
10The thief does not come unless it is to steal and slay and destroy. I have come that they might have life and might have it in abundance.
11 I am the shepherd, the fine [one]. The shepherd, the fine [one] surrenders his soul in behalf of the sheep [is prepared to be disfellowshipped for the sheep].
12 The hired man [False 1NCs on the Governing Body with authority over the sheep], who is no shepherd [appointed by men but not by God] and to whom the sheep do not belong as his own, beholds the wolf [The Man of Lawlessness or perhaps rotten 1NC saints, Satan's seed. They never get sealed. They were probably chosen by Satan in the first place. They are the over sown weeds] coming and abandons the sheep and flees [from the internal power struggle] and the wolf snatches them and scatters them [The wolf wins the internal power struggle due to the nonchalance of the hired man. The wolf then takes authority and snatches the sheep in the fallen church].
13 because he is a hired man [unsanctified] and does not care for the sheep.
14 I am the shepherd, the fine [one] and I know my sheep and my sheep know me,
15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I surrender my soul in behalf of the sheep.
16 And I have other sheep [for whom he also gives his angelic soul, sanctified sheep], which are not of this fold [true Christians who do not join the first true church of a presence. They are not sons of the 1EC or of the 3EC. They become sons of the 2EC and of the 4EC, when they join the second church of a presence]; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd [in TCC2/4 under FDS2/4 in the second part of the presence].
17 This is why the Father loves me, because I surrender my soul, in order that I may receive it again [his angelic soul, he gets it back to procreate with?? He cannot have angelic sons without having an angelic soul?].
18 No man has taken it away from me, but I surrender it of my own initiative [angelic body]. I have authority to surrender it, and I have authority to receive it again. The commandment on this I received from my Father. 
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Again a division resulted among the Jews because of these words [This was said to his disciples who were with him when he cured the blind man and thereafter, and the Jews also heard it, but this is not the sort of thing he would have said to the Pharisees, he only explained his parables to his disciples. A new audience a new account].
20 Many of them were saying: He has a demon and is mad. Why do you listen to him?
21 Others would say: These are not the sayings of a demonized man. A demon cannot open blind people's eyes, can it? [Interesting Binary Question!] (John 10).

The Word symbolic threads relate to Paul and the ELC and Gordon and the 2NC. The fold, the sheep pen, dark and controlling and restricting, is the first church of a presence. The pasture, open, free, unrestricted, light, is the second church of a presence. Now in the Hebrew day, the evening comes before the morning, the night comes before the day. So in the day of the presence, the pen comes before the pasture. But the pasture is mightier than the pen.

Repeated phrases such as: 'I am the door', I am the shepherd the fine [one]. Does this mean Jesus is the door in two ways and the shepherd in two ways? It means this is a key phrase we think. 
I know my sheep and my sheep know me and The father knows me and I know the father are another repetitive prophetic form. The prophetic form 'truly, truly' does not give two fulfilments for each thread, it just gives two fulfilments among all the threads or possibly all the word threads. This means that two threads are identical. 

We need to count this...

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Old almost correct understandings...

The Second Word Symbolism

1 Truly, I say to you, He that does not enter into the fold of the sheep [the 1EC or 3EC] through the door [Jesus, the mediator of the ARC, the door for the shepherd, the door to angelic life] but goes up some other way [falsely claims to be sanctified], that one a thief is and a plunderer.
2 But he that enters through the door [the JAC] is [a] shepherd of the sheep [head of FDS2 or FDS4].
3 The doorkeeper [Elijah 1 or 3, keeps the 1NC saints safe, and is himself another door, the door for the sheep] opens [the door for the sheep] to this one [by water baptising the shepherd], and the sheep [those in the 1EC or 3EC] listen to his voice [message], and he calls the owned/specified (idia) sheep by name [he recognises the status of the sanctified] and leads them out [of the 1EC or 3EC].
4 When he has got all the owned/specified (idia) [ones] [sanctified] out [of the 1EC or 3EC], he goes before them, and the sheep follow him [in FDS2 or FDS4], because they know his voice [message].
5 A stranger they will by no means follow but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.
[6 Jesus spoke this comparison to them; but they did not know what the things meant that he was speaking to them] (John 10).

 

Symbolic word/phrase

Word count

Word Symbolic meaning

Doorkeeper 1x Mediator of a new covenant, through the door of Jesus (Paul for Bilhah, Gordon for Rachel, someone for Zilpah)
Door 2x Jesus, grants entrance into the true sheepfold to the old FDS and the new FDS
Sheepfold 1x The 2AC
Shepherd 1x New FDS who enters through the door of Jesus
Sheep led out of fold n/a Led out of congregation of old FDS into congregation of new FDS
Thief (1) and plunderer (1) na Two people who falsely claim to be baptised in holy spirit (from heaven), someone in the first presence (who may not have been a president) and Milton Henschel, the 5th president of the Watchtower. They appropriate Jesus' flock for themselves.
Climbs up some other place n/a Gets to the top or near to the top of the true congregation without being baptised in holy spirit.
Voice of Strangers 1x Brothers with leadership who pose as sanctified Christians but are not.
Calls his own sheep by name 1x
Sheep 4x Sons of the 2AC
Voice 3x Message

1 And to the angel of the congregation in Sardis write: These are the things that he says who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars: I know your deeds, that you have the name that you are alive, but you are dead (Revelation 3).

False anointing claim. Milton Henschel, 5th and last president of the Watchtower.

7 And to the angel of the congregation in Philadelphia write: These are the things he says who is holy, who is true, who has the key of David, who opens so that no one will shut, and shuts so that no one opens, 
8 I know your deeds, look! I have set before you an opened door, which no one can shut--that you have a little power, and you kept my word and did not prove false to my name (Revelation 3).

Doorkeeper, 6th congregation, 6th administration of second presence, Gordon, 1st president of the Lordís Witnesses.

16 And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd (John 10).

Yes but not in the original sheepfold, the congregation of the original FDS, for the new covenant saints are led out of there by the shepherd. They become one flock in the congregation of the new FDS.