[157] Daniel 8: The ram the goat and the 2300 evenings and mornings

1 In the 3rd year of the kingship of Belshazzar, the king, there was a vision that appeared to me, even me, Daniel, after the one appearing to me at the start [The vision of Daniel 7 in the first year of Belshazzar].
2 And I began to see in the vision; and it came about, while I was seeing, that... I was in-Shushan, the castle, which is in-Elam, the jurisdictional district; and I proceeded to see in the vision, and I myself happened to be by the watercourse of Ulai [The sons of the Law Covenant].
3 When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! a ram, one (rxa) [that was] standing before (to faces of) the watercourse, and it had 2 horns [The Empire of Media and Persia]. And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward.
4 I saw the ram making thrusts to the sea/west and to the north and to the negeb/south, and no beasts [other kingdoms] kept standing before (to faces of) it, and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand. And it did according to its will, and it became great/wrestled/contended.
5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat (rypc) of the she-goats [The Empire of Greece] coming from the free-market/West upon the surface (faces) of the whole earth (#ra) [to the attention of all administrations], and it was not touching the ground (#ra) [Alex famously left conquered administrations intact]. And as regards the he-goat (rypc), there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes [Alexander the Great - powerful military visionary].
6 And it kept coming all the way to the ram, [the] owner of the 2 horns, which I had seen standing before (to faces of) the watercourse; and it came running toward it in its powerful rage.
7 And I saw it coming into close touch with the ram, and it began showing bitterness toward it, and it proceeded to strike down the ram and to break its 2 of horns, and there proved to be no power in the ram to stand before (to faces of) it. So it threw it to the ground and trampled it down, and the ram proved to have no deliverer out of its hand.
8 And [the] he-goat (rypc) of the she-goats, wrestled/contended until greatness; but as soon as it became mighty, the horn, the large [one] was broken [Alexander died], and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [Antigonus Monophthalmus then Seleucus Nicator, Cassander, Ptolemy Lagus, Lysimachus], toward the 4 of winds of the heavens [North South East and West].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [Antiochus Epiphanes - Maccabees 1], and it kept getting very much greater toward the south [He conquered Egypt] and toward the sunrising [The Seleucids held Asia] and toward the Decoration [He conquered Israel in 170 BC and removed the gold and treasure].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [JAC Israelites], so that it caused some of the army [ICC Israelites] and some of the stars [JAC Israelites] to fall to the earth [Leave their spiritual administration, leave their covenants and fall to the physical administration of Antiochus, even making covenants with them and building a Greek 'gymnasium' in Jerusalem], and it went trampling them down.
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [Jesus] it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down [Antiochus attacked Jerusalem again and defiled the temple and set up the abomination causing desolation on 168Chislev15, putting an idol altar on the altar of the temple and sacrificing a pig upon it, this threw down the temple, after the constant feature had been removed].
12 And [the] army [ICC Israelites] was given over, together with the constant [feature], due to transgression [The transgression causing desolation was wicked Jews who made covenants with the Greeks. This lead to a new unified world order of idolatry at the command of Antiochus]. And it kept throwing truth to the ground [hiding truth in its administration], and it acted and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] [used as an adjective] and the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [How long will it be from the transgression causing desolation to the restoration?]
14 So he said to me: Until evening [and] morning 2300, and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored [The priesthood was corrupted at the appointment of Jason as high priest through a bribe to Antiochus in 174BC. The temple was restored and the altar rededicated by Judas Maccabeus on 165Chislev25 in the 148th year of the Kingdom of Greece over Israel. This being the origin of Hanukkah] (Daniel 8).

Verses 1,2,15,27 contain narrative. We separate the vision from the narrative?? The 2300 evenings and mornings start with the transgression that causes desolation, and then on 168Chislev15, due to that transgression, the constant feature is removed. Throughout the period the holy place and the army and trampled on. The holy place is restored 3 years after the end of the period along with the constant feature. 

The appointment of Jason as High Priest by Antiochus (bribe)               Temple defiled by Antiochus
Transgression causing desolation to Jews (loss of ICC capability)         Abomination in place  
174August12/13  BC                                                                                 168November28/29 BC
174Elul1 BC (Calculated)                                                                         168Chislev25 BC (Known - Antiochus' birthday)
X________________________________________________________ X
                                     2300 Solar Days

The appointment of non Levite Menelaus High Priest by Antiochus     Altar rededicated during Hanukkah from Chislev25-Tebbeth2
Defiled priesthood, constant feature ends (loss of 1AC capability)      Judas Maccabeus restores temple
171May5/6  BC                                                                                      165December23 BC (Gregorian - true solar)
168Iyyar25 BC (Calculated)                                                                  165Chislev25 BC (Known)
X______________________________________________________ X
                                            1290 BLC

Antiochus IV issues decree banning Judaism                     1335 days of enforced hellenism
and enforcing false worship under pain of death                  Antiochus Eupater peace treaty + freedom of worship
167June8/9 BC                                                                     163February14/15 Megillat Ta'anit refers to minor holiday of Jews
167Sivan13 BC (Calculated)                                                164Shebat28 (Known) (1Maccabees6) THIS MAY BE INCORRECT.
X______________________________________________X
            1335 BLC days of enforced Hellenism

Antiochus Epiphanes died in 164. But the news of his death would not have reached Jerusalem from Persia immediately, so the date of his death, could not have caused happiness/blessedness. Also the last time they heard such news in 168, it turned out to be false! But the peace treaty with freedom of worship would have caused happiness/blessedness immediately. And was an archetype for the Kingdom of God. So that was the end of the 1335 days of enforced Hellenism.

The 1290 and 1335 days must start with a breaking of the power of the holy people to pieces - Daniel 12:7.

Temple defiled by Antiochus                                                                                      Altar re-dedicated during Hanukkah from Chislev25 to Tebbeth2
Abomination in place                                                                                                  Judas Maccabeus restores temple
168November28/29 BC                                                                                             165December23 (Gregorian - true solar)
168Chislev25 BC (Known)                                                                                        165Chislev25
X________________________________________________________________ X
                                                        3 years

The constant feature occurred every half day, hence it is natural to take the ambiguous expression 'and a half' to be half a day. Certainly there was a reason why God did not just write '3½ Times'. The 'start' in verse 1 was the first year of Belshazzar, when he had the vision of Daniel 7. According to Maccabees 1, Antiochus took Jerusalem in the 143rd year of the kingdom of the Greeks (as a world power 1Maccabees1:21). Then on Chislev15 in the 145th year of the kingdom of the Greeks, the abomination causing desolation (an idol altar) was set up on the altar in the temple in Jerusalem (1 Maccabees 1:54). Then on the Chislev25 in that year, 10 days later, they sacrificed upon the idol altar which was upon the altar of God, defiling it (1 Maccabees 1:59). Then on the Chislev25 in the 148th year of the kingdom of the Greeks, they restarted true worship in the temple, having cleaned it up and rebuilt it. They dedicated the altar in an 8 day long ceremony (1 Maccabees 4:52-56). 

The story of Hanukkah is described nicely in wikipedia as follows...

The story of Hanukkah is preserved in the books of the First and Second Maccabees. These books are not part of the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible); they are Jewish apocryphal books instead. The miracle of the one-day supply of oil miraculously lasting eight days is first described in the Talmud, written about 600 years after the events described in the books of Maccabees. The Gemara, in tractate Shabbat 21, focuses on Shabbat candles and moves to Hanukkah candles and says that after the forces of Antiochus IV had been driven from the Temple, the Maccabees discovered that almost all of the ritual olive oil had been profaned. They found only a single container that was still sealed by the High Priest, with enough oil to keep the menorah in the Temple lit for a single day. They used this, yet it burned for eight days (the time it took to have new oil pressed and made ready). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah 

They did not storm the sanctuary when they first took Jerusalem:

The they built the city of David with a great and strong wall and with mighty towers and made it a stronghold for them. And they put therein a sinful nation, wicked men, and fortified themselves therein. They stored it also with armour and victuals, and when they had gathered together the spoils of Jerusalem, they laid them up there and so they became a sore snare. For it was a place to lie in wait against the sanctuary, and an evil adversary to Israel (1 Maccabees 1:33-36).

Josephus also has Antiochus taking Jerusalem in the 143rd year of the Seleucids (Antiquities of the Jews book 12:chapter 5).

The modern day pigs on the altar are the 1NC reserves, unclean in flesh, but offered to God through their covenant. They leave legion and enter into the pigs and then get baptized in the lake of the 4EC.

Jason (Aaronic), the brother of Onias III, the previous high priest, was incorrectly appointed by a Gentile through a bribe (not by genetic succession). He is prefiguring the Watchtower priesthood without a water baptism, and so not the official people of God (Jews). 

Menelaus, a non levitical high priest prefigures the Watchtower priesthood when it became a false church, unable to offer a sacrifice. Jason and Menelaus were Greek names not Hebrew names.

The New Hanukkah

7. Now Judas celebrated the festival of the restoration of the sacrifices of the temple for eight days; and omitted no sort of pleasures thereon: but he feasted them upon very rich and splendid sacrifices; and he honoured God, and delighted them, by hymns and psalms. Nay they were so very glad at the revival of their customs, when, after a long time of intermission, they unexpectedly had regained the freedom of their worship, that they made it a law for their posterity, that they should keep a festival on account of the restoration of their temple worship for eight days. And from that time to this we celebrate this festival, and call it Lights. I suppose the reason was, because this liberty beyond our hopes appeared to us; and that thence was the name given to that festival. Jewish Antiquities XII - Josephus - http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/ant-12.html 

41 Then Judas detailed men to fight against those in the citadel until he had cleansed the sanctuary. 
42 He chose blameless priests devoted to the law, 
43 and they cleansed the sanctuary and removed the defiled stones to an unclean place. 
44 They deliberated what to do about the altar of burnt offering, which had been profaned. 
45 And they thought it best to tear it down, so that it would not be a lasting shame to them that the Gentiles had defiled it. So they tore down the altar, 
46 and stored the stones in a convenient place on the temple hill until a prophet should come to tell what to do with them. 
47 Then they took unhewn[a] stones, as the law directs, and built a new altar like the former one. 
48 They also rebuilt the sanctuary and the interior of the temple, and consecrated the courts. 
49 They made new holy vessels, and brought the lampstand, the altar of incense, and the table into the temple. 
50 Then they offered incense on the altar and lit the lamps on the lampstand, and these gave light in the temple. 
51 They placed the bread on the table and hung up the curtains. Thus they finished all the work they had undertaken.

52 Early in the morning on the 25th day of the 9th month, which is the month of Chislev, in the 148th year,
53 they rose and offered sacrifice, as the law directs, on the new altar of burnt offering that they had built. 
54 At the very season and on the very day that the Gentiles had profaned it, it was dedicated with songs and harps and lutes and cymbals. 
55 All the people fell on their faces and worshiped and blessed Heaven, who had prospered them. 
56 So they celebrated the dedication of the altar for eight days, and joyfully offered burnt offerings; they offered a sacrifice of well-being and a thanksgiving offering. 
57 They decorated the front of the temple with golden crowns and small shields; they restored the gates and the chambers for the priests, and fitted them with doors. 
58 There was very great joy among the people, and the disgrace brought by the Gentiles was removed.

59 Then Judas and his brothers and all the assembly of Israel determined that every year at that season the days of dedication of the altar should be observed with joy and gladness for 8 days, beginning with the 25th day of the month of Chislev. 
(1 Maccabees 4.) Jewish tradition not from God.

Aaron inaugurated himself from 1512Nisan1-7 and then made a sacrifice on 1512Nisan8 and God sent fire to consume that sacrifice.
Solomon inaugurated the altar from 1026Tishri7-1026Tishri14 8 days with an atonement day gap. And God sent fire on 1026Tishri7 to consume the first sacrifice.
Neither of these installations was ever commanded to be memorialised in a festival of dedication. So there would not be a festival of rededication from God. Only from man.

But nonetheless the 2nd physical temple had to be rededicated just as the 2nd spiritual temple has to be. We shall perform a Christian rededication. But should we make a festival out of it? Yet God does memorialise great escapes as festivals and this will be a very great escape. Well the scripture says...

22 Occurred then the 'into-new's [en eg eij kainia plural] [i.e. the days of renewal, i.e. the days of the festival of renewal/dedication] in the Jerusalem; winter it was,
23 and was walking about the Jesus in the temple in the colonnade of the Solomon. (John 10 KIT)

This is universally translated and understood to be the festival of the dedication. But it does not actually say that. The word festival is absent. So we shall rededicate the altar, who is Jonah/Thomas, the 1NC reserve half apostle upon whom all the 1NC reserves are to be sacrificed. But we shall not turn that into a festival.

Greek History

Alexander the great died in 323. The Seleucid kingdom began in 312 with the defeat of Demetrius Poliorcetes at Gaza by Ptolemy and Seleucus Nicator - CAH - The Hellenistic World Vol 7.1). This opened the door for Seleucus to retake Babylonia, which he did immediately in that year. 312 was the first year of the Kingdom of the Greeks over Israel, the Seleucid era. In 311 Ptolemy Lagos, Cassander, Lysimachus and Antigonus Monophthalmus signed a peace agreement to divide up the Kingdom of Alexander into 4 but as prophesied in Daniel 8 (4 Kingdoms) and in Daniel 11 (but not to his posterity). And then in 305 Ptolemy, Cassander, Lysimachus and Seleucus Nicator declared themselves 'kings' over the 4 quarters of the Greek empire, Seleucus having made conquests against Antigonus (in final fulfilment of the words of Daniel). Antiochus Epiphanes started reigning in the 137th year of the Seleucid kingdom, 176 (1 Maccabees 1) and took as regnal years 175 to 164 (CAH). He died in 164, the 149th year of the Seleucids (1 Maccabees 6).

After Jerusalem fell, Antiochus sent letters to Judah and Jerusalem that everyone should worship Seleucid Gods such as Apollo, or die physically. 

Moreover Antiochus wrote to his whole kingdom, that all should be one people, and every one should leave his laws: so all the heathen agreed according to the commandment of the king. Yea, many also of the Israelites consented to his religion and sacrificed unto idols and profaned the sabbath. For the king had sent letters by messengers unto Jerusalem and the cities of Juda, that they should follow the strange laws of the land and forbid burnt offerings and sacrifice and drink offerings in the temple. And that they should profane the sabbaths and the festival days and pollute the sanctuary and the holy people, set up altars and groves and chapels of idols and sacrifice swine's flesh and unclean beasts, that they should also leave their children uncircumcised, and make their souls abominable with all manner of uncleanness and profanation, to the end that they might forget the law and change all the ordinances. And whosoever would not do according to the commandment of the king, he said, he should die.(1 Maccabees 1:41-50)

In those days went there out of Israel wicked men, who persuaded many, saying: Let us go and make a covenant with the heathen that are round about us, for since we departed from them we have had much sorrow. So this device pleased them well. Then certain of the people were so forward herein that they went to the king, who gave them licence to do after the ordinances of the heathen. Whereupon they built a place of exercise at Jerusalem according to the customs of the heathen, and made themselves uncircumcised (not quite sure how you do that) and forsook the holy covenant and joined themselves to the heathen and were sold to do mischief (1 Maccabees 1:11-15).

The behaviour of the wicked Jews is identical to that of the Watchtower in becoming a UN NGO and the subsequent commandment of Antiochus is very similar to the position that the UN will eventually take with all religion. 

The event symbolism, as described by Gabriel, is as follows:

14 To this he said: No, but I, as prince of the army of Jehovah, I have now come. With that Joshua fell on his face to the earth and prostrated himself and said to him: What is my lord saying to his servant? 
15 In turn the prince of the army of Jehovah said to Joshua: Draw your sandals from off your feet, because the place on which you are standing is holy. At once Joshua did so (Joshua 5).

3 And you must say to them: This is the offering made by fire that you will present to Jehovah: two sound year-old male lambs a day as a burnt offering constantly. 
4 The one male lamb you will render up in the morning, and the other male lamb you will render up between the two evenings (Numbers 28).

15 Then it came about that, while I myself, Daniel, was seeing the vision (!wzx) and seeking an understanding, why, look! ...there was standing in front of me someone in appearance like an able-bodied man [rbg].
16 And I began to hear the voice of an earthling man [~da] in the midst of the Ulai, and he proceeded to call out and say: Gabriel, make that one there understand the thing seen (hram).
17 So he came beside where I was standing, but when he came I got terrified so that I fell upon my face (faces). And he proceeded to say to me: Understand, Oh son of man, that the vision is for the time of [the] end [of the Law of Moses].
18 And while he was speaking with me, I had become fast asleep on my face (faces) on the ground. So he touched me and made me stand up where I had been standing.
19 And he went on to say: Here I am causing you to know what will occur in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of [the] end.
20 The ram that you saw, [the] owner of the 2 horns, [stands for] [the] kings of Media and Persia.
21 And the he-goat, the hairy [one] (ry[X), [stands for] [the] king of Greece; and the horn, the large [one] that was between its eyes, it [stands for] the king, the first [king] [Alexander].
22 And that one having been broken, so that there were 4 that stood up instead of it, there are 4 of kingdoms from [his] nation that will stand up, but not with his power [The Kingdoms of his 4 generals - Antigonus Monopthalmus/Seleucus Nicator, Cassander, Ptolemy Lagus, Lysimachus].
23 And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings [Good at political deception - Antiochus Epiphanes used deception all the time on the Jews].
24 And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in an astonishing way he will cause ruin [by introducing a new unified world order of idolatry], and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of [the] holy ones.
25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken [He died in misery and grief at the revolt of the Jews realising that his demise was a result of his persecution of their religion, i.e. as a result of angelic actions - 1 Maccabees 6].
26 And the thing seen of the evening and [of] the morning [making a whole day], which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because [it is] about many days...
27 And as for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of the king. But I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen, and there was nobody understanding [it].

End Times Fulfilment

3 When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! a ram, one (rxa) [that was] standing before (to faces of) the watercourse, and it had 2 horns [2x. The UK/US world power]. And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward [The US horn is now larger than the UK horn. The ram depicts 'Christian countries'. The goat depicts non Christian countries. The Russians are now 'Christian' but they have actually banned JWs and did ban Christianity until the collapse of the Soviet Union. They are not constitutionally Christian. The Russian constitution gives freedom of religion. the Chinese actually persecute Christians].
4 I saw the ram making thrusts to the sea/west and to the north and to the negeb/south [all of Europe except East Europe which had Russian thrusts. the Eastern from was between Germany and Russia], and no beasts [other kingdoms] kept standing before (to faces of) it, and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand. And it did according to its will, and it became great/wrestled/contended [in WW1 and in WW2].
5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat (rypc) [China not Russia] of the she-goats [a group of goat countries aligned with China and Russia - Chinese allies - non Christian countries constitutionally] coming from the mechandise/intermingling/commerical markets/free-market/Darkness/Sunset/West upon the surface (faces) of the whole earth/ground (#ra) [to the attention of all administrations. China is coming from the free market and selling commodities and goods, the primary meaning of br"[]m; more than it is coming from the West], and it was not touching the earth/ground (#ra) [Like Alexander the great it left conquered administrations intact or no boots on the ground? Ukraine is West of Russia and Russia has boots on the ground. So Russia in not Alexander the great. They get bogged down in the ground and totally change the administrations of the nations they CONQUER. This is the 4 wings of the Leopard, which enables it to make war without touching the ground - 4 WINGED CHINESE DRONES. The bear does not have any wings in Daniel7. And the Leopard is given rulership - the bear is not. And/Or it could mean that the congregation of the true church is protected]. And [to] the he-goat (rypc), [was] a conspicuous horn between its eyes [Russian and Chinese militaries. They see everything in military terms - They care nothing for sanctions. This defines the goat to be 4x: The 4 heads of the Leopard].

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11119667/Chinese-troops-travel-Russia-military-exercises-India-eastern-war-games.html India, China and Russia have formed a military alliance as of 2022Ab17..

6 And it kept coming all the way to the ram, [the] owner of the 2 horns, [ONE OWNER of 2 militaries, the UK US world power. According to Daniel7 the UK owns the US horn?!?!? this redefines the count of the ram from 3x to 2x] which I had seen standing before (to faces of) the watercourse [ark based 4EC?]; and it came running toward it in its powerful rage [as a result of a provocation by the Ram - false flag fire signs - pushing by the King of the South?].

7 And I saw it reaching near to the ram [redefined as 1x], and it became bitter towards it, and it struck down the ram and broke its 2 of horns, and there proved to be no power in the ram to stand before/to faces of it. And it threw it to the earth/ground and trampled it down, and the ram proved to have no deliverer out of its hand [It has the 2 horns of the ram and the large horn of the goat and the 4 horns making 7 and 3 more?]

5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat of the she-goats [3x: having kingship over a she goat 3x?? like a crown of 12 stars, like a centurion], coming from the market/West upon the surface (faces) of the whole earth [+1x], and it was not touching the earth [1x: CHINESE DRONES]. And [to] the he-goat, [was] a conspicuous horn between its eyes [1x+1x+2x = 4x].
6 And it [4x] kept coming until the the ram, [the] owner of the 2 horns [1x.2x=2x], which I had seen standing before (to faces of) the watercourse [2x]; and it [4x] came running toward it [2x] in its powerful rage.

7 And I saw it [4x] reaching near to the ram [1x: redefined to 1x], and it [4x] became bitter towards it [1x], and it [4x] struck down the ram [1x] and broke its 2 of horns [2x], and there proved to be no power in the ram [1x] to stand before/to faces of it [4x, a polite plural]. And it [4x] threw it [1x] to the ground and trampled it down [4x.1x=4x], and the ram proved to have no deliverer out of its hand [1x.5x=5x]

Verse 5: 1x.3x.(1x+1x+1x)+1x+1x+2x = 13x
Verse 6: 4x+1x.2x.2x+4x.2x = 16x   
Verse 7: 4x+1x+4x.1x+4x.1x+4x.2x+1x+4x+4x.1x+4x.1x+5x = 5x+4x+4x+8x+5x+4x+4x+5x = 39x

Total: 13x+16x+39x = 68x. The first 68 months of WW3,  from 2025Shebat20/21 to 2031Tishri. So the UK/US ram (NATO) loses WW3 and is not delivered until 2031Tishri. We are subjugated for 5 years (under the hand of the goat). We lose WW3 in 2006. Alternatively, the he goat of the Chinese might not get into WW3 until 12 months into it, i.e. 2026Shebat. Then its war contention lasts until 2032Tishri22/23, the end of WW3 which releases the ram. If so then the UK/US loses WW3 in 2027 and we are under the hand of the goat until 2032Tishri22/23. Alexander the Great was very quick in his conquests. The Chinese victory will be quick. I suspect they will invent such a powerful drone army that nobody will have a chance against them conventionally. I further suspect that the creativity for the Chinese drones comes from the West and is given to the Chinese by double agents in the Western intel services (the 5 eyes). What the Chinese have is an incredibly powerful manufacturing base. That is how they win WW3. But they could not do it without double agents in the West.

This must reconcile with the count of Daniel11:40-45 somehow - see U152.

The UK-US beast is one beast - the ram, [the] owner of the 2 horns. 2 Horns one owner. The owner is the head upon which the first horn was located, the UK. This scripture says that the UK and the US militaries are OWNED by the same beast.

And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller (US) was the one that came up afterward (Daniel 8:30).

8 And [the] he-goat (rypc) of the she-goats, wrestled/contended until greatness [1x+1x =2x: Verse 8 retells the story of verse 5-7 from a spiritual perspective], but as soon as it became mighty, the horn, the large [one] was broken [1x+1x=2x: Chinese military is destroyed by nuclear war because the Ram has no conventional horns left], and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [These horns are on she goats under the he goat. The 3rd beast of Daniel7 with 4 heads and 4 wings - 4 nations which do not include China. Germany has Leopard tanks as does Turkey], toward the 4 winds of the heavens [North = Germany - Mike's Dream and from which the little horn of the EU emerges, South = South Africa, East = China, West = Brazil].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [the EU - out of the German Leopard], and it kept getting very much greater toward the south [] and toward the free market/West [] and toward the Decoration [God's people].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [], so that it caused some of the army [] and some of the stars [] to fall to the earth [even though resident in the ark and sealed??], and it went trampling them down.
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [] it wrestled/contended greatly, and from him the constant [something NOT feature - the prince of the army is not worshipped] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down [Zoar on earth for 4½x of Daniel7:25].
12 And [the] army [] was given over, together with the constant [something NOT feature], due to transgression []. And it kept throwing truth to the ground [hiding truth within its administration by censroship], and it laboured [] and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [something NOT feature] and the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [How long will it be from the transgression causing desolation to the end of the trampling?]
14 So he said to me: Until evening [and] morning 2300, and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored [2300, 4600 or 1150 solar or lunar days yet to be found] (Daniel 8).

First Word Symbolism

Double designations: 
A ram, one standing before the watercourse
The ram, [the] owner of the 2 horns 
The he-goat, the hairy [one]
The horn, the large [one]
The king, the first [one]

Multiple Descriptions:
Army of the heavens, Army
Prince of the army, Prince of princes
Watercourse, Watercourse of Ulai
Thing seen, Thing seen of the evening and morning

So there are two fulfilments to the 'thing seen' in each word symbolic thread.

Multiple Designations:
Ram, [the] owner of 2 horns. So there are 2 word symbolic kingdoms described by these designations. These are the kingdom of all Israel (North and South), and Christendom (Catholic and Protestants).

Prophetic forms: Me, even me, Daniel, and: I, myself, Daniel. These mean there are 3 Daniels in all.

Noun count in the vision unless otherwise stated:

The Hebrew word 'faces' has the meaning of 'face' or 'attention'. 'To stand before' or 'to stand against' is 'to stand to faces of'.

1 In the 3rd year of the kingship of Belshazzar [WSS1 - 71Nisan-72Nisan], there was a vision [The first word symbolic thread of Daniel 8] that appeared to me, even me, Daniel [Paul], after the one appearing to me at the start [on the road to Damascus]. 
2 And I began to see in the vision, and it came about, while I was seeing, that... I was in-Shushan, the castle, which is in-Elam, the jurisdictional district; and I proceeded to see in the vision, and I myself happened to be by [the] watercourse of Ulai [Those water baptised into FDS2].
3 When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! a ram [The Kingdom of all Israel], and it had 2 horns [The Northern and Southern Kingdoms]. And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, and the taller was the one that came up afterward [The Northern Kingdom was larger and came later].
4 I saw the ram [from King David to Judas Maccabeus] making thrusts to the sea/west [The Philistines] and to the north and to the south [From the Nile to the Euphrates to Tyre and Sidon], and no wild beasts [other kingdoms] kept standing before it [for long], and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand. And it did according to its will, and it became great/wrestled/contended.
5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat of the she-goats [A true Christian Church] coming from the sunset [The Kingdom of God] upon the surface of the whole earth [to the attention of the whole administration of Israel], and it was not touching the ground [the administration of Israel]. And as regards the he-goat [The whole true Christian Church], there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes [Jesus, the power and vision of the church].
6 And it kept coming all the way to the ram [The Kingdom of all Israel], which I had seen standing before the watercourse [Those water baptised by John] and it came running toward it in its powerful rage.
7 And I saw it coming into close touch with the ram, and it began showing bitterness toward it, and it proceeded to strike down the ram and to break its 2 of horns [The religious administrations of Judah and Samaria], and there proved to be no power in the ram to stand before it. So it threw it to the ground and trampled it down, and the ram proved to have no deliverer out of its hand.
8 And [the] he-goat of the goats [The first true Christian church], wrestled/contended until greatness; but as soon as it became mighty, the horn, was broken [Jesus was murdered], and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [FDS1, FDS2, FDS3, FDS4] toward the 4 of winds of the heavens [the 4 spirit baptisms into the 1NC, the HLC, the 2NC and the ELC].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [WSS1 out of FDS1], and it kept getting very much greater toward the south [the Egyptians] and toward the sunrising [The Babylonians and other easterners] and toward the Decoration [the sons of Israel].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [The sons of the JAC], so that it caused some of the army [the sons of the ICC] and some of the stars [the sons of the 1NC] to fall to the earth [fall from heavenly administration to physical earthly administration - lose faith], and it went trampling them down [repressing them].
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [Jesus] it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] [sufficient true Christians so that some are always in true worship] was taken away [all of TCC1 disfellowshipped], and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down [not a living stone left upon a living stone].
12 And an army itself was given over, together with the constant [feature], due to transgression [Idolatary of Romans or Roman Gods], and it kept throwing truth to the ground [hiding truth in its administration], and it acted and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking [There are going to be two fulfilments of this, one for each holy one]: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] and [of] the transgression [both used as adjectives] causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [How long will it be from the transgression causing desolation to the restoration?]
14 So he said to me: Until evening [and] morning 2300, and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored...
15 Then it came about that, while I myself, Daniel [Paul], was seeing the vision (!wzx) [The first word symbolic thread] and seeking an understanding, why, look!... there was standing in front of me someone in appearance like an able-bodied man.
16 And I began to hear the voice of an earthling man in the midst of the Ulai, and he proceeded to call out and say: Gabriel, make that one there understand the thing seen (hram) [The first word symbolic meaning].
17 So he came beside where I was standing, but when he came I got terrified so that I fell upon my face [turned his attention away from bible research out of fear of its glory]. And he proceeded to say to me: Understand, Oh son of man [Paul was a submediator of the JAC], that the vision is for the time of [the] end [of the Jewish system of things - the ram].
18 And while he was speaking with me, I had become fast asleep on my face on the ground [Paul fell asleep spiritually for a while, turning his attention to physical things, and Gabriel had to wake him up]. So he touched me and made me stand up where I had been standing.
19 And he went on to say: Here I am causing you to know what will occur in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of [the] end [of TCC1].
20 The ram that you saw, [stands for] [the] kings of Media and Persia [The religious administrations of Judah and Israel].
21 And the he-goat, [stands for] [the] king of Greece [The Christian church], and the horn, that was between its eyes, it [stands for] the king [Jesus, the head of the Christian church].
22 And that one having been broken [murdered], so that there were 4 that stood up instead of it, there are 4 of kingdoms from [his] nation that will stand up, but not with his power [FDS1, FDS2, FDS3, FDS4].
23 And in the final part of their kingdom [plural kings, singular kingdom, so it is the kingdom of the kings of Media and Persia, which are the religious administrations of Judah and Israel], as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king [WSS1] fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings.
24 And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power. And in an astonishing way he will cause ruin, and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of [the] holy ones [TCC1].
25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes [Peter] he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken [the holy spirit will break him].
26 And the thing seen (hram) of the evening and the morning [The meaning of the 2300 evening and mornings], which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because [ it is] about many days...
27 And as for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of Belshazzar. But I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen (hram), and there was nobody understanding [it] (Daniel 8).

26 It was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians (Acts 11).

So to sum up diagrammatically we have:

Pharisees commit idolatry with Romans
Jerusalem condemns Jesus, Romans don't           FDS1 take the name 'Christians' in Antioch
Transgression causing desolation to Jews              Holy place brought into right condition  
1 April 33 AD  (33Nisan14)                                       19th July 39 AD (39Ab9/10)
X________________________________________X
                    2300 Solar Days

What did the Romans ever do for us? They exonerated Jesus Christ!

ES1 compromises with Rome (the Catholic - meaning unviersal - church)
1NCs ride the 7 hills of Rome as a harlot church
The first Bishop of Rome, Pope St. Linus becomes its head      1290 days of Daniel12:11 before the fall of TCC1 as a true church         4½x of the far bank of Daniel12 after 79Tishri14, the end of the 1EC water baptism
Transgression causing desolation to TCC1                                 Constant feature of Acceptable evangelism is removed                           TCC1 falls as a true church
68January15/16 AD  (67Tebbeth20)                                             80August19/20  AD (80Elul14)                                                                    84Nisan14
X__________________________________________________X________________________________________________________X
                    4600 Solar Days of Daniel8                                            1290 BLC days of Daniel12 (The Time of the End of TCC1)

The Catholic Encylopedia has St. Linus as the first Pope after St. Peter (who was never a Pope). And has St. Linus ruling from 67-76 - http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
Wikipedia has St Linus becoming Pope in 64 or 68 AD.

"According to the earliest succession lists of Bishops of Rome passed down by Irenaeus of Lyons (c180 AD) and Hegesippus (c160) and attested by the historian Eusebius (c260-340) he (St. Linus) was entrusted with his office by the apostles Peter and Paul after they had established the Christian church in Rome. By this primitive reckoning he was therefore the first Pope. But from the late 2nd or early 3rd century the convention began of regarding St. Peter is first Bishop" - The Oxford Dictionary of Popes 2005 JND Kelly and M Walsh 

7 But, on the contrary, when they saw that I had entrusted to me the good news for those who are uncircumcised, just as Peter [had it] for those who are circumcised --
8 for He who gave Peter powers necessary for an apostleship to those who are circumcised gave powers also to me for those who are of the nations;
9 yes, when they came to know the undeserved kindness that was given me, James and Cephas and John, the ones who seemed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of sharing together, that we should go to the nations, but they to those who are circumcised. (Galatians 2 NWT)

So Peter was never the Bishop of Rome!!

"The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric" - Irenaeus against Heresies Book 3 chapter 3. 

21 Do your utmost to arrive before winter. Eubulus sends you his greetings, and [so do] Pudens and Linus and Claudia and all the brothers. (2 Timothy 4 NWT)

61 This man said: I am able to throw down the temple of God and build it up in three days.
62 With that the high priest stood up and said to him: Have you no answer? What is it these are testifying against you? (Matthew 26).

Jesus throws down the temple of TCC1 and builds up 3 more Christian church temple in three days (TCC2, TCC3, TCC4).

Roman History

Augustus: GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR AUGVSTVS September 23 63 BC, Rome, Italia January 16, 27 BC – August 19, 14 AD Became de facto emperor as a result of the 'first settlement' between himself and the Roman Senate. August 19, 14 AD
Natural causes. 41 Years, 8 Months
Tiberius: TIBERIVS IVLIVS CAESAR AVGVSTVS November 16 42 BC, Rome September 18, 14 AD – March 16, 37 AD Son of Augustus's wife Livia by a previous marriage; adopted son of Augustus. March 16, 37 AD
Probably natural causes, possibly assassinated by Caligula 22 Years, 6 Months
Caligula: GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR AVGVSTVS GERMANICVS August 31, 12 AD, Antium, Italia March 18, 37 AD – January 24, 41 AD Tiberius's great-nephew and adopted grandson; great-grandson of Augustus. January 24, 41 AD
Assassinated in a conspiracy involving senators and Praetorian Guards. 3 Years, 10 Months
Claudius TIBERIVS CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVGVSTVS GERMANICVS August 1, 10 BC, Lugdunum, Gallia Lugdunensis January 25/26, 41 AD – October 13, 54 AD Nephew of Tiberius, brother of Germanicus and uncle of Caligula; proclaimed emperor by the Praetorian Guard. October 13, 54 AD. Probably poisoned by his wife Agrippina the Younger, in favour of her son Nero. 13 Years, 9 Months
Nero: NERO CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVGVSTVS GERMANICVS December 15, 37 AD, Antium, Italia October 13, 54 AD – June 9, 68 AD Grandson of Germanicus, nephew of Caligula, step- and adopted son of Claudius; great-great-grandson of Augustus. June 9, 68 AD Committed suicide after being declared a public enemy by the Senate. 13 Years, 8 Months

4 Roman Emperors in 69AD (This was also the year in which FDS1 fell on 69Nisan14=69March23/24 and FDS2 was appointed on 69Nisan17)

Galba: SERVIVS SVLPICIVS GALBA CAESAR AVGVSTVS December 24 3 BC, Near Terracina, Italia June 8, 68 AD – January 15, 69 AD Seized power after Nero's suicide, with support of the Spanish legions January 15, 69 AD
Murdered by Praetorian Guard in coup led by Otho. 7 Months
Otho: MARCVS SALVIVS OTHO CAESAR AVGVSTVS April 28, 32 AD, Ferentinum, Etruria, Italia January 15, 69 AD – April 16, 69 AD Appointed by Praetorian Guard April 16, 69 AD
Committed suicide after losing Battle of Bedriacum to Vitellius 3 months 1 day (91 days)
Vitellius: AVLVS VITELLIVS GERMANICVS AVGVSTVS September 24, 15 AD, Rome April 17, 69 AD – December 20, 69 AD Seized power with support of German Legions (in opposition to Galba/Otho) December 20, 69 AD
Murdered by Vespasian's troops 8 Months
Vespasian: TITVS FLAVIVS CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVGVSTVS November 17, 9 AD, Falacrine, Italia July 1, 69 AD – June 24, 79 AD Seized power with the support of the eastern Legions (in opposition to Vitellius) June 24, 79 AD
Natural causes 10 years

Titus: TITVS FLAVIVS CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVGVSTVS December 30, 39 AD, Rome June 24, 79 AD – September 13, 81 AD Son of Vespasian September 13, 81 AD
Natural causes (Plague) 2 years, 3 months
Domitian: TITVS FLAVIVS CAESAR DOMITIANVS AVGVSTVS October 24, 51 AD, Rome September 14, 81 AD – September 18, 96 AD Son of Vespasian September 18, 96 AD
Assassinated by court officials 15 years

Nerva: MARCVS COCCEIVS NERVA CAESAR AVGVSTVS November 8, 30 AD, Narni, Italia September 18, 96 AD – January 27, 98 AD Appointed by the Senate January 27, 98 AD
Natural causes 1 year, 4 months
Trajan: CAESAR MARCVS VLPIVS NERVA TRAIANVS AVGVSTVS September 18, 53 AD, Italica, Hispania Baetica January 28, 98 AD – August 7, 117 AD Adopted son and heir of Nerva August 7, 117 AD
Natural causes 19 years, 7 months
Hadrian: CAESAR PVBLIVS AELIVS TRAIANVS HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS January 24, 76 AD, Italica, Hispania Baetica (or Rome) August 11, 117 AD – July 10, 138 AD Adopted son and heir of Trajan July 10, 138 AD
Natural causes 21 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_emperors (thanks to wikipedia).

So the Roman catholic church was formed by a deal with Emporer Galba, after Nero had committed suicide!

Second Word Symbolism

Substitute 'ram' with 'one standing before the watercourse'. Substitute nouns acting as nouns only.

1 In the 3rd year of the kingship of the king, [Jesus in the kingdom] there was a vision [The second word symbolic thread of Daniel 8] that appeared to me, even me, Daniel [Gordon], after the one appearing to me at the start [2001 when Gordon started decoding Daniel 8 and deduced that the 4600 solar days ran from the Watchtower joining the UN on 1992January28, the trangression causing desolation to them, to the end of the constant feature on 2004Elul14. We used to think that the time of the end was the time of the knowledge of the date of the end. This day began on 1991Shebat21 (1992February1) with the 7x of the Exedenic Times from Genesis4].
2 And I began to see in the vision; and it came about, while I was seeing, that... I was in-Shushan, the castle, which is in-Elam, the jurisdictional district; and I proceeded to see in the vision, and I myself happened to be by the watercourse of Ulai [Those water baptised into FDS4].
3 When I raised my eyes, then I saw, and, look! one (rx)) standing before the watercourse [Sons of the ICC], and it had 2 horns [Catholics and Protestant]. And the 2 horns were tall, but the one was taller than the other, [the Protestants came after but are located in the more powerful nations] and the taller was the one that came up afterward [].
4 I saw [the] one (rxa) standing before the watercourse []) making thrusts to the sea/west [around the Mediterranean] and to the north [Europe and Russia] and to the dryness/south [ex sons of the ICC], and no wild beasts [other religions] kept standing before it, and there was no one doing any delivering out of its hand []. And it did according to its will, and it put on great airs.
5 And I, for my part, kept on considering, and, look! there was a he-goat of the goats [FDS3] coming from the sunset [The Kingdom of God] upon the surface of the whole earth [to the attention of all the churches in Christendom], and it was not touching the ground [Keeping clear of Christendom]. And as regards the hairy [one] [covered in the 'great crowd'], there was a conspicuous horn between its eyes [Russell - he was the only one of the Watchtower presidents and subsequently AOL who did bible research. the only one who had any vision].
6 And it kept coming all the way to [the] owner of the 2 horns, which I had seen standing before the watercourse [], and it came running toward it in its powerful rage.
7 And I saw it coming into close touch with [the] owner of the 2 horns [], and it began showing bitterness toward it, and it proceeded to strike down [the] owner of the 2 horns [] and to break its 2 of horns [Catholics and Protestants], and there proved to be no power in [the] owner of the 2 horns [] to stand before it. So it threw it to the ground and trampled it down, and [the] owner of the 2 horns [] proved to have no deliverer out of its hand [5 Presidents].
8 And [the] he-goat of the goats [FDS3], for its part, put on great airs to an extreme; but as soon as it became mighty, the large [one] [Russell] was broken, and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel], toward the 4 of winds of the heavens [North South East and West, over 200 countries].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [Laodicea], and it kept getting very much greater toward the negeb/south [Those who had lost their water baptism - the ex sons of the 3EC in TCC3] and toward the sunrising [Eastern Europe] and toward the Decoration [over the remnant of the 1NC].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [], so that it caused some from the army [] and some from the stars [] to fall to the earth [], and it went trampling them down.
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [Jesus] it put on great airs, and from him [] the constant [feature] [] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary [] was thrown down [AOL causes Jesus to lose the constant feature and Jesus' sanctuary to be thrown down].
12 And an army itself [] was given over, together with the constant [feature], due to transgression []; and it kept throwing truth to the ground [Laodicea is WSS2, who hides his talent in the ground], and it acted and had success [it hid Laodicea successfully].
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one [Gabriel] speaking, and another holy one [Michael] proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking []: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] and [of] the transgression, causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [This is Michael asking Gabriel on behalf of Daniel]
14 So he said to me: [Gabriel answers] Until evening [and] morning 2300 [], and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored [perhaps at the immediate end of the 2300 evenings and mornings or perhaps years after that]...

This is 4600 solar days from 1992January28 to 2004Elul14 (September1, the first day of the field service year) when the constant feature of the Watchtower (field service) was removed and the army of field workers (JWs)  therefore became something to trample on.

So 4600 solar days before the constant feature was removed and the army was trampled and 4600 BLC days of trampling of the holy place. We use the before or during ambiguity, the solar or lunar days ambiguity, and the temple and army distributivity. 

Perhaps FDS is when a church has authority over the saints
Wicked Slave is when they lose their authority over the saints and become the Evil Slave
Sluggish Slave is when they lose their water baptism but still remain a slave running a true church, putting people into the 1AC. This is not much use since the angels can do it better anyway.
The Good for Nothing Slave, GNS, is when they lose their constant feature.
Then when they become a false church they are no longer a slave of Jesus but rather have become a slave of Satan.

The Greek word translated sluggish actually means backward, timid, hesitant, shrinking, unready, unprepared.

Russell Faithful
Rutherford Discreet
Knorr Wicked
Franz Timid
Henschel Good for Nothing.

15 Then it came about that, while I myself, Daniel, was seeing the vision (!wzx) and seeking an understanding, why, look! ...there was standing in front of me someone in appearance like an able-bodied man. [Gabriel]
16 And I began to hear the voice of an earthling man in the midst of the Ulai [Michael], and he proceeded to call out and say: Gabriel, make that one there understand the thing seen (hram). [Only Michael has authority over Gabriel being an archangel]
17 So he came beside where I was standing, but when he came I got terrified so that I fell upon my face. And he proceeded to say to me: Understand, Oh son of man, that the vision is for the time of [the] end [Daniel is therefore non-adamic at this time]
18 And while he was speaking with me, I had become fast asleep on my face on the ground. So he touched me and made me stand up where I had been standing.
19 And he went on to say: Here I am causing you to know what will occur in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of [the] end [of the Watchtower]
20 [The] owner of the 2 horns [Christendom], [stands for] [the] kings of Media and Persia [Catholics and Protestants].
21 And the hairy [one], [stands for] [the] king of Greece [FDS3], and the large [one] that was between its eyes, it [stands for] the first [Russell].
22 And that one having been broken, so that there were 4 that stood up instead of it, there are 4 of kingdoms from [his] nation [under Rutherford, Knorr, Franz and Henschel] that will stand up, but not with his power [Rutherford to Henschel did not have the interpretational power of Russell].
23 And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, there will stand up a king fierce in countenance and understanding ambiguous sayings [AOL].
24 And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power [By Elijah4's power, the true mediator of the 2NC] And in an astonishing/wonderful way he will cause ruin, and he will certainly prove successful and do effectively [in setting up Laodicea and keeping it hidden]. And he will actually bring mighty ones to ruin [He will ruin the 1NC and 2NC saints], also the people made up of [the] holy ones [Those in the Watchtower and in Laodicea].
25 And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. [He falsely represents that he is the mediator of the 2NC] And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. [He believes that he will run the Kingdom of God on earth] And against the Prince of princes [Gordon] he will stand up, but it will be without hand [like the stone of Daniel2] that he will be broken [the holy spirit will break him].
26 And the thing seen of the evening and [of] the morning [The meaning of the 2300 evening and mornings], which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because [it is] for/about many days...
27 And as for me, Daniel [Gordon], I felt exhausted [] and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of the king [Jesus - Daniel works for God - rather than commercial software design!]. But I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen, and there was nobody understanding [it] (Daniel 8).

The evening and morning fulfilments are measured in days say Gabriel in verse 26. This is ambiguous deliberately. In the second word symbolic thread, an evening stands for a day and a morning stands for a day, so 2300 evenings and mornings is 4600 solar days.

In the Columbus Ohio convention from July24-30 1931, the Watchtower bible students took the name Jehovah's witnesses (in fact on July 26^th). This convention was actually the time that the 2300 evenings and mornings of Daniel 8 were fulfilled in the first fulfillment of the second presence. If we count back 4600 solar days from the first day of the convention i.e. July 24th 1931 we end up on December 19th 1918.

Now on December 12th 1918 the Federal council of churches of Christ in America excelled themselves in idolatry by passing the following resolution:

... The time has come to organize the world for truth and right, justice and humanity. To this end, as Christians, we urge the establishment of a League of Free Nations at the coming Peace Conference (which was in Versailles -ed). Such a League is not a mere political expedient. It is rather the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth... The Church has much to give and much to gain. It can give powerful sanction by imparting to the new international order something of the prophetic glory of the Kingdom of God. What is the Kingdom of God, if it not be the triumph of God's will in affairs of men, "righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit"? And what is this vision of a world federation of humanity organized on the basis of justice and fair dealing, for the effective and impartial maintenance of peace, if it be not of the Kingdom of God?

The Federal council of churches also passed a resolution to appoint a Special Commission to represent them and to take the resolution to the Peace Conference. The resolution was sent to President Wilson in a letter dated December 18th 1918.

So here was the harlotry of Babylon with the League, the church was jumping on the beast before it came into existence. Counting 4600 days after the date of this letter we end up on the day before the convention where JHWH gave his name to the Watchtower bible students, showing that the holy place was now in the right condition. In other words the 4600 days count exclusively.

4600 Solar days rather than lunar days, because the 2300 evenings and mornings are a vision of the constant feature, and this was a genuine daily feature, not a prophetic Hebrew calendar feature. And 4600 rather than 2300 because the constant feature occurred two times in a day, or putting in another way in 2300 evenings and mornings there were 4600 constant feature sacrifices. So the constant feature occurred 4600 times in this period, so then take a day for a constant feature and we get 4600 days. 

14 Until 2300 evenings and mornings and the holy place will certainly be brought into the right condition (Daniel8).

And the holy place is earthly Jerusalem, the administrative centre, the FDS3. It came into the right condition at the time of the Columbus Ohio convention, not by announcement in the Watchtower magazine on October 15, 1932 (YW p216) as is currently proposed in the Daniel book (Your will be done on earth - JW publication), a date arrived at by counting 2300 literal days from the convention at the famous Albert Hall on May 25-31 1926. Jehovah must have brought his sanctuary into the right condition by July 1931 because if he had not done so then we would be in a situation where his name would have been given to something which was not in the right condition and this is impossible.

The second fulfillment of the 2300 evening and mornings is from the start of the time of the end until the end, since Gabriel has told us that:

17 Understand, Oh Son of man, that the vision is for the time of the end (Daniel 8).

And they end with the restoration of the temple of FDS4.

Gordon himself first calculated that Armageddon was in 2008 CE, from a parallel to the Gentile and Alienation Times (this parallel was to become the prophecy of the Exedenic Times on 21 January 1992). He did not get an explicit bible witness to the Exedenic Times, which first came in the form of the curse of Cain of Genesis 4:15, until the day of February 1, 1992 (before 6pm). So counting inclusively the 4600 days end on 2004September 4th (before 6pm) or 2004Elul16. But this is the day of the second passover, the second new covenant celebration. A good day for the temple of FDS4 to be restored (actually having some 1NC saint in it).

The main recollection that he now has of February 1, is that he had a pizza with some of the brothers and a sister that evening (1991Shebat22). The sister asked the writer:

The writer thought to himself: She has asked this question on exactly the right day, because today I know for a fact that it's 2008, because I have just understood the greater meaning of the curse of Cain. The writer then said to the sister: "Yes". She replied: "So when is it?" The writer then said:

It is not necessary for there to have been a convention to mark this date because there was no action taken by the society to correspond with this prophecy, because they are sad hypocrites unworthy of their founder. The writer himself did not turn his attention to the book of Daniel until early March. Daniel itself was therefore allowed to be unsealed by holy spirit by the time that the writer actually had a look at it with a view to understanding its greater meanings.

Now unbeknown to Gordon or to 5 million JWs, the Watchtower joined the UN as an NGO on January 28th 1992 - woops - see [246], 3 days before Gordon worked out the date of Armageddon. So the transgression causing desolation occurred 3 days before the time of the end began, so the 4600 days had the transgression causing desolation until 2001October9 and had the constant feature right until 2004Elul14, when the 1AC capability of the Watchtower was lost and it became a false religion like the catholics. So one or other was the case all the way through the 4600 days. 

The Watchtower actually acknowledge that the UN is the disgusting thing that will cause desolation to God's people. They just failed for 10 years to acknowledge that they were riding on its back.

So the second presence evening fulfilment (which came first) of the 4600 days, which started with the Federal Council of churches associating themselves with the LN (League of Nations), is followed by the morning fulfilment (which came second in the Hebrew day) of the 4600 days, which started with Gordon working out the date of Armageddon and with the Watchtower associating themselves with the UN. And the first was the transgression that caused desolation to the great Harlot of Babylon, the Babylon without, and the second was the transgression that caused desolation to the harlot of the Evil slave, the Babylon within. Because at the end of the day, both harlots are left devastated and naked, both harlots are desolated, incredibly by the same beast and for the same transgression.

It's like Daniel said to Belshazzar, referring to Nebuchadnezzar his father:

22 And as for you, his son, Belshazzar, you have not humbled your heart although you knew all this. 
23 But against the Lord of the heavens you exalted yourself (Daniel 5).

ES1 compromises with Rome (the Catholic - meaning unviersal - church)
1NCs ride the 7 hills of Rome as a harlot church
The first Bishop of Rome, Pope St. Linus becomes its head      1290 days of Daniel12:11 before the fall of TCC1 as a true church         4½x of the far bank of Daniel12 after 79Tishri14, the end of the 1EC water baptism
Transgression causing desolation to TCC1                                 Constant feature of Acceptable evangelism is removed                           TCC1 falls as a true church
68January15/16 AD  (67Tebbeth20)                                             80August19/20  AD (80Elul14)                                                                    84Nisan14
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                    4600 Solar Days of Daniel8                                            1290 BLC days of Daniel12 (The Time of the End of TCC1)

Letter to President Wilson with FCC resolution      Convention where Watchtower gets divine name
FCC commits idolatry with League on Nations       'Jehovah's Witnesses'
Transgression causing desolation to Babylon         Holy place brought into right condition  
December 18th 1918                                                24th July 1931
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           4600 Solar Days counting exclusively

The UN has 7 secretary generals (U Thant to Antonio Guterres) ridden by the Vatican with the blasphemous name of the Holy see. The Vatican gained permanent UN observe status on 1964April6 (1964Nisan22/23). 

13 days before Laodicea is appointed to feed 1NCs    Constant feature of Zoar is suspended and of Laodicea is ended     The fall of reappointed Laodicea, which 
Transgression causing desolation to Laodicea?          Their worship is rejected, they are constructively a false church        becomes itself an abomination, a false church
2003Chislev19                                                               2016Ab14-16                                                                                        2019Adar16
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                4600 Solar days of Daniel8                                                  1290 BLC days of Daniel12

1999October28 bibledecoded.com registered            LWs became non adamic Abrahamic. LW constant feature ended on 2012Sivan14 since we died to Adam and lost our priesthood
It then took 2-5 days to point that domain at Pipex      Temple in right condition
Constant feature of LWs installed?                             Abrahamic first fruits
1999November1/2 or 3/4 (1st upload?)                      2012June4/5 or 6/7
1999Heshvan19/21                                                     2012Sivan14/16
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     4600 Solar Days (morning fulfilment for TCC4)

¹⁶¹13 And I got to hear a certain holy one [Gabriel] speaking, and another holy one [Michael] proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking [2 fulfilments]: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] and [of] the transgression, causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [Pairs of Everything. This is Michael asking Gabriel on behalf of Daniel]

14 So he said to me: [Gabriel answers] Until evening [and] morning 2300 [], and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored [perhaps at the immediate end of the 2300 evenings and mornings or perhaps years after that]...

Laodicea loses its 4EC baptism                                    Holy Place comes into final condition
Constant feature of a clean congregation ends            1st 2NC saints are 4EC baptised into Reverted Laodicea
2014February15/16                                                       2020June4
2013Adar10                                                                   2020Sivan12
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                    2300 Solar Days

Letter to Bethels (Abomination causing desolation)      Broke the first seal of Revelation6? 
Watchtower loses water baptism                                  Realized that the bible specifies the time of year using festivals.
Holy place and army trampled to earth                          LW temple in right condition - chronologically - we realized that we had to become festival Geeks
2001October31/November1                                          2014June5/6
2001Heshvan10                                                             2014Sivan7
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                    4600 Solar Days

We broke the first seal of Revelation6 which is to understand that the bible specifies the time of year using festivals, on this day (which was 2014Sivan7 according to the Iyyar1 year start calendar). 

¹⁰²The 1290 days of the Time of the End of Satan of Daniel12 run from the loss of the constant feature of his heavenly viewpoint over the earth (or his constant bickering in heaven) on 2022Adar23/24, his eviction down the 30 steps of Jacob's ladder.. 

So Satan repents into Zoar before the 3rd Holy Spirit has taken over Abraham on 2026Heshvan5.
The 1000 day chain of Revelation began on 2023Nisan24 and runs to 2025Shebat3/4, the day after the start of WW3.

Satan is the one who has been acting as a restraint upon the demons, preventing the 10 kings from appearing and the Mark from being implemented until the completion of his repentance in July 2022, 1290 days of the time of the End of Satan from his heavenly eviction on 2022Adar23/24, the end of constant feature of his capability to spy upon all of us from heaven, to his repentance and baptism into Zoar on 2026Tishri24.

7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint [Satan1] gets to be out of the way.
8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed [Satan2 for the world and POL for Laodicea], whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. (2 Thessalonians 2 NWT)¹⁰²

This is rather ironic since the 2300 evenings and mornings of Daniel8 was the scripture that Massoud interpreted that broke Elijah4 free from the brainwashing of the Watchtower and started him doing his own research and thereby obeying the 1st law.

The 2300 evenings and mornings could actually be regarded as 1150 days since such a period contains 2300 instances of evenings and mornings. Or they could simply be 2300 days. When they are 2300 evenings with associated mornings and 2300 mornings with associated evenings then we have 4600 solar days. When they are 2300 evenings and mornings associated with each other then we have 2300 solar days. 

THERE MUST BE AN 1150 DAY FULFILMENT WHICH WE ARE MISSING!!

WATCHTOWER TO LORDS WITNESSES FULFILMENT

8 And [the] he-goat of the goats [Russell], for its part, put on great airs to an extreme; but as soon as it became mighty, the large [one] [AOL] was broken, and there proceeded to come up conspicuously 4 instead of it [4 more presidents - Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel], toward the 4 of winds of the heavens [].
9 And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one [AOL], and it kept getting very much greater toward the negeb/south [] and toward the sunrising [] and toward the Decoration [over the remnant of the 1NC].
10 And it kept getting greater all the way to the army of the heavens [1NC reserves], so that it caused some from the army [Priests] and some from the stars [] to fall to the earth [lose heavenly focus, lose faith], and it went trampling them down.
11 And all the way to the Prince of the army [Jesus prior to 2008] it put on great airs, and from him [Jesus] the constant [feature] [capability to water baptise] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary [The Watchtower] was thrown down [lost its water baptism - its heavenly power].
12 And an army itself [The sons and ex sons of the 3EC] was given over, together with the constant [feature], [given over to the LWs] due to transgression [Library Card excuse for UN harlotry]; and it kept throwing truth to the ground [belittling it], and it acted and had success.
13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking [2NCs] and another holy one [1NCs] proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking [There are going to be two fulfilments of this, one for each holy one]: How long will the vision be [of] the constant [feature] and [of] the transgression, causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on? [How long will it be from the transgression causing desolation to the end of the constant feature or to the restoration?]
14 So he said to me: [Daniel = Gordon] Until evening [and] morning 2300 [this is 4600 solar days. It is 2300 evenings with associated mornings and 2300 mornings with associated evenings, making 4600 solar days], and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition/restored [perhaps at the immediate end of the 2300 evenings and mornings or perhaps years after that]...

The big picture

All transgressions that cause desolation are the same. They are the idolatry of a 'new' 'unifying' world order by an old true religion. The Jews fell for the new unifying world order of Antiochus Epiphanes, they then killed Jesus in a further transgression. The first century Christians fell for the new religious unifying world order of the Roman Catholic church (even Peter himself fell at first). Christendom fell for the new unifying world order of the League of Nations. The Watchtower fell for the new unifying world order of the United Nations. When the 616 prohibition of Revelation 13 arrives, all the world will be required to accept the mark of the UN, which is the approval of the UN. All corporate entities will be required to become UN NGOs and be 'married' to the UN and therefore take its name. All individual humans will be required to register with the UN, they will then get a UN ID number, the number of its name. And nearly all of these people and corporations will think and believe the lie that this is a brand new and brilliant idea to combat terrorism. This is because these people have given up thinking for themselves, they have given up researching man's history for themselves. They have become like the lemming that follows others over the cliff and like the bull that follows the lead bull into the Abattoir. They are the pilot whales who follow the lead whale onto the beach. This is not a knew idea, it is an old trick of Satan. It is a trick that he has used no less that 4 times already! It is always a mechanism for him to destroy the true religion. But this time it won't work on the true people of God. May God give us the strength and vision to stay faithful.

The 2300 evenings and mornings of Daniel8 is the period after the transgression causing desolation during which the church manages to keep the constant feature. This is followed by the 1290 days of Daniel8, until an end of some type.

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Technical Notes

9 and do not presume to say to yourselves, 'As a father we have Abraham.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones (Matthew 3).

Those baptised by John into the 1EC were dead stone to be built into a living temple once they were sanctified.

Mark of beast is approval (c.f. Jerusalem mark in Ezekiel) 
Corporate persons approval is the Name of beast is marriage. NGO affiliated
Individual persons approval is the number of the beast, a UN registration number for all individuals (like in Jesus day).