'Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly' - Robert F. Kennedy
disciples buried John and then came and reported that John had been beheaded to
hearing this Jesus withdrew from there [his home
territory, Capernaum] in a boat into a lonely place for
isolation [to the opposite side of the harp shaped 3 sided
lake of Chinnereth - meaning Harp, towards Tiberias as in Mark - see verses 22, 32]; but the crowds,
getting to hear of it, followed him on foot from the cities.
14 Now when he came forth he saw a great crowd; and he felt pity for them, and he cured their sick ones.
15 But when evening fell his disciples came to him and said: The place is lonely and the hour is already far advanced; send the crowds away, that they may go into the villages and buy themselves things to eat.
16 However, Jesus said to them: They do not have to leave: You give them something to eat.
17 They said to him: We have nothing here but 5 loaves and 2 fishes.
18 He said: Bring them here to me.
19 Next he commanded the crowds to recline on the grass and took the 5 loaves and 2 fishes, and, looking up to heaven, he said a blessing and, after breaking the loaves, he distributed them to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds.
20 So all ate and were satisfied, and they took up the surplus of fragments, 12 baskets full.
21 Yet those eating were about 5,000 men [andreV], besides women and young children.
22 Then, without delay, he compelled his disciples to board the boat and go ahead of him to the other side [Tiberias as in Mark], while he sent the crowds away (Matthew 14).
32 And they got across and came to land in Gennesaret (Matthew 14).
[Apostles reported what they had done after having been
given authority over unclean spirits]
So off they went in the boat
[from Capernaum - see Mark 6:1] for a lonely place to
themselves [South towards Tiberias on the same side of the
lake - see verse 45].
33 But people saw them going and many got to know it, and from all the cities they ran there together on foot and got ahead of them.
34 Well, on getting out, he saw a great crowd, but he was moved with pity for them, because they were as sheep without a shepherd. And he started to teach them many things.
35 By now the hour had grown late, and his disciples came up to him and began to say: The place is isolated, and the hour is already late [i.e. evening time].
36 Send them away, that they may go off into the countryside and villages round about and buy themselves something to eat.
37 In reply he said to them: You give them something to eat. At this they said to him: Shall we go off and buy loaves of 200 denarii and give [them] to the people to eat
38 He said to them: How many loaves have you? Go see! After ascertaining it, they said: 5, besides 2 fishes.
39 And he instructed all the people to recline by companies on the green grass.
40 And they laid themselves down in groups of 100 and of 50.
41 Taking now the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes he looked up to heaven and said a blessing, and broke the loaves up and began giving them to the disciples, that these might place them before the people; and he divided up the 2 fishes for all.
42 So they all ate and were satisfied;
43 and they took up fragments, 12 baskets full, aside from the fishes.
44 Furthermore, those who ate the loaves were 5,000 men [andreV].
45 And, without delay, he compelled his disciples to board the boat and go on ahead to the opposite shore toward Bethsaida, while he himself dismissed the crowd (Mark 6).
53 And when they got across to land, they came into Gennesaret and anchored ship nearby (Mark 6).
[John's disciples are said to buy John but not said to
report to Jesus. However the Apostles reported what they had done after having
been given authority over demons and sickness] With that he took them along and withdrew to privacy into a city called
11 But the crowds, getting to know it, followed him. And he received them kindly and began to speak to them about the kingdom of God, and he healed those needing a cure.
12 Then the day started to decline [so evening had not yet fallen]. The 12 now came up and said to him: Dismiss the crowd, that they may go into the villages and countryside round about and procure lodging and find provisions, because out here we are in a lonely place [Jesus slept in Bethsaida but went out into the country for solitude in the day].
13 But he said to them: You give them something to eat. They said: We have nothing more than 5 loaves and 2 fishes, unless perhaps we ourselves go and buy foodstuffs for all these people.
14 They were, in fact, about 5,000 men [andreV]. But he said to his disciples: Have them recline as at meals, in groups of about 50 each.
15 And they did so and had them all recline.
16 Then taking the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes, he looked up to heaven, blessed them and broke them up and began to give them to the disciples to set before the crowd.
17 So they all ate and were satisfied, and the surplus that they had was taken up, 12 baskets of fragments (Luke 9).
[Jesus witness in Jerusalem, meal before the evening]
After these things Jesus set off across the sea of the Galilee, [across from]
the Tiberias [John 6:23, but the boats out of Tiberias
came near the place where they ate the blessed bread, then they went to
Capernaum. So this place was probably Bethsaida as in Luke].
2 But a great crowd kept following him, because they were beholding the signs he was performing upon those who were ill.
3 So Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he was sitting with his disciples.
4 Now the passover, the festival of the Jews, was near.
5 When, therefore, Jesus raised his eyes and observed that a great crowd was coming to him, he said to Philip: Where shall we buy loaves for these to eat?
6 However, he was saying this to test him, for he himself knew what he was about to do.
7 Philip answered him: loaves of 200 denarii are not enough for them, so that each one may get a little
8 One out of his disciples, Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, said to him:
9 Here is a little boy that has 5 barley loaves [Barley is first fruits, loaves are offered at Pentecost] and 2 small fishes/eatables . But what are these among so many? 
10 Jesus said: Have the men [anqrwpoV] recline as at meal. Now there was a lot of grass in the place [not English lawn grass but Israeli long grass - reeds - rulers]. Therefore the men [andreV] reclined, about 5,000 in number.
11 So Jesus took the loaves and, after giving thanks, he distributed them to those reclining, likewise also as much of the small fishes as they wanted.
12 But when they had their fill he said to his disciples: Gather together the fragments that remain over, so that nothing is wasted.
13 Therefore they gathered them together, and they filled 12 baskets with fragments from the 5 loaves, the barley [ones] which were left over by those who had eaten (John 6).
[16 When evening fell, his disciples went down to the sea, and, boarding a boat, they set out across the sea for Capernaum [the opposite side to Bethsaida - the Jordan is the divide] (John 6)
22 The next day the crowd that was standing on the other side of
the sea [from Capernaum, i.e. at Bethsaida]
saw that there was no boat there except a little one, and that Jesus had not entered into the boat with his disciples but that
only his disciples had left;
23 but boats from Tiberias arrived near the place where they ate the bread after the Lord had given thanks.
24 Therefore when the crowd [who had eaten] saw that neither Jesus was there nor his disciples, they boarded the little boats [that had come from Tiberias] and came to Capernaum to look for Jesus (John 6).
In Luke 9 and John 6 the crowds are not said to be dismissed.
In Luke 9 the baskets of fragments left are not said to be full.
Matthew and Mark: Opposite side of the sea to Bethsaida, hour late/evening fell, groups of 100 and 50, crowd arrived before the 200 denarii comment in Mark.
Luke and John: Bethsaida (opposite side to Tiberias), day starting to decline (just after midday), all in groups of 50. Crowd arrived after the 200 denarii comment in John.
Matthew and Mark: 5,000 men ate.
Luke and John: 5,000 men reclined.
Matthew and Mark: Have the people/crowds recline on the grass
Luke and John: Have them/the men recline as at a meal
So Mark is parallel to Mathew and John is parallel to Luke.
The Watchtower was appointed/installed as priests to feed non reserve 1NC saints on 1914Heshvan2/Chislev21 (2NC first fruits/Pentecost after the expiration of the Continuous Gentile Times). FDS3 was appointed/installed to rule over all of Jesus' belongings (the saints who were only non reserve 1NC saints at that time) on 1918Iyyar22/Tammuz11 (1NC first fruits/Pentecost). FDS3 was never appointed over the 1NC reserves or the 2NC saints. It lost its exclusivity at late tablet shattering day on 1997Elul28, making way for FDS4 to be appointed over all of the 2NC saints on 1997Tishri2.
On 1997Elul28, on late tablet shattering day - see U200, they fell in authority over the saints and became the evil slave of Matthew24. This is because they denied the Christ 3x on the Passover days of 1994Nisan14/1995Nisan14/1996Nisan14/1997Nisan14 by refusing to celebrate the one festival that they had to get right correctly after having received instruction on how to do it from Elijah4 by letter of 1994Nisan3 and 1995Nisan10. Gordon spoke to Dan Sydlik (a Watchtower Governing Body member) about this and his response was that hopefully the Holy Spirit made up for that kind of thing. It does if the sin is committed in ignorance. It does not if the sin was deliberate.. They failed that test. So the LWs were appointed over all Jesus' belongings (the saints) on 2NC first fruits day after the interposing festival Sabbath of Tishri1, after 1997Elul28, which was 1997Tishri2 - see U42. They fell as a true church on 2005Sivan10 - 1290 days of Daniel12 after the disgusting thing causing desolation of the diabolical library card excuse letter to the Bethels of 2001Heshvan10. This was the end of the constant feature of the Watchtower water baptism into the 3EC. - see U152. So the Watchtower fed and will feed the 1NC saints with and without Jesus' authority for 100x (as a garden-plot or an onion bed - i.e. with authority, i.e. from 1918Tammuz11 onwards) from 1918Tammuz11, the completed installation of FDS3 over all of Jesus' garden-plot/onion-bed to 2018Nisan14 and 2018Elul14, when their last victims go to Gehenna (since JWs must have been baptized into the 1AC before joining that true church). Jesus commanded them to recline. But they laid themselves down in groups of 100 and 50. These 100x and 50x feeding periods of true churches are the period of prophetically declared but not altogether authorized by Jesus. People tend to stick to a true church even after it has become false.
Matthew is the unsanctified brothers in TCC1 and TCC3 and Mark is the saints in those churches?
At hearing this Jesus withdrew from there [Capernaum]
in boat into a lonely
on his own. But the crowds,
having heard, followed him on-foot from the cities. .
14 So when he got out he saw a great crowd. And he felt-tender-affection for them, and he cured their sick [ones].
15 But [at the time] of late [oyiaV] having become his disciples came to him saying: The place is lonely and the hour has already passed by; send off the crowds, in order that having gone off into the villages they might buy themselves foods.
16 However, Jesus said to them: They do not have to leave: You give them [something] to eat.
17 They said to him: We do not have [anything] here but 5 loaves and 2 fishes.
18 He said: Bring them here to me.
19 And having commanded the crowds to recline on the grass, he took the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes, and, looking up into heaven, he blessed [them] and, having broken [them] he gave the loaves to the disciples, and the disciples [gave them] to the crowds.
20 So all ate and were satisfied, and they took up the [food] remaining over, 12 baskets full of fragments.
21 Yet the [ones] eating were males about [wsei] 5,000, apart from women and little-children [paidiwn]
22 And immediately, he compelled the disciples to step aboard the boat and go ahead of him to the other-side [peran], while he sent off the crowds (Matthew 14).
gathered together before
and reported to him all [things]
as many as they had done and as many as they had taught.
31 And he said to them: Come, you yourselves, privately into a desolate/lonely place and rest up a little. For the [ones] coming and the [ones] going were many, and they did not have-an-opportunity to eat.
32 So they went off in the boat [from Capernaum] into a lonely place for themselves.
33 But many saw them going and got to know it, and they ran there together on-foot from all the cities and got ahead of them.
34 Well, on getting out, he saw a great crowd, but he felt-tender-affection for them, because they were as [wV] sheep without a shepherd. And he started to teach them many [things].
35 And [at the time] of the hour already having come to be much, his disciples came up to him and said: The place is lonely, and the hour is already much.
36 Send them away, in order that they may go off into the fields and villages in a circle [kuklw] and buy themselves what they might eat.
37 Answering he said to them: You give to them to eat. At this they said to him: Having gone off shall we buy loaves [implied ek] [out] of 200 denarii and give to them to eat?
38 He said to them: How many loaves have you? Go see! After ascertaining it, they said: 5, and 2 fishes [icquaV].
39 And he instructed them all to recline company [by] company on the green grass.
40 And they laid themselves down garden-plot/onion-bed/leek-bed [by] garden-plot/onion-bed/leek-bed [square groups representing the 4 true religious administrations fully appointed] according to 100 [100 years, from 1918Iyyar22/Tammuz11, the appointment/installation of FDS3 not to feed as priest but to rule as sacred king over all the belongings to 2018Elul14, the end of entry into the first death, when no JW is left alive] and according to 50 [From 33 when TCC1 first had 5,000 male saints within it (After the 5,000 men of Acts 4:4) to 83 when the Roman Catholic church decreed that no more food from the first 5 administrations of FDS1 could ever be served again. There would be no point in destroying all the food of FDS2 and denying the book of Revelation if they permitted all the food from FDS1 to continue to be served. Also 100 days of face to face feeding in the LWs of 5,000 the 1NC saints from 2017Sivan28, 4th marriage veil lifting day, when we have 5,000 1NC reserves to feed - not all of whom have been baptised - to 2017Heshvan6, when the 3rd Holy Spirit takes over the Zoar 1NCs. This being what Jezebel leaves us with - 100/101 prophets of Jehovah].
41 And having taken the 5 loaves [the 5 presidents of FDS1 before it became the Roman Catholic Church and the 5 presidents of the Watchtower before Don Adams who describes himself as an administrator] and the 2 fishes [the food of the administrations of the first 2 presidents of FDS2, Paul and James we think], having looked up into heaven [meaning the blessing and the breaking comes from there], he blessed and broke the loaves [a loaf is the food of the administration of a president. A loaf receives a heavenly blessing when Jesus appoints an administration of a president to feed and a loaf is broken is when Jesus finishes the food production of the administration of that president - by his death. The blessing is on the food not the person so it is not a sanctification] and began giving them to the disciples, in order that they might place them before them; and he divided up the 2 fishes for all.
42 So they all ate and were satisfied;
43 and they took up fragments, ones-filling 12 of baskets [partitive genitive] [12 full years, from 2005Sivan10, the fall of the Watchtower as a true church to 2017Sivan10. Or 12 full calendar years from 2006Nisan1-2017Adar30? The Watchtower stop feedingsome 1NC reserve saints by 2017Sivan10, the first Passover entry day into the 1st Watchtower Passover. So that would indeed be 12 full baskets from 2005Sivan10], and/aside from the fishes [The Watchtower started feeding rubbish new understandings in 2013 - see 2013July15th Watchtower]
So the import of Mark6 is the some of the 1NC reserves must stop taking Watchtower food before the end of 2017Sivan10, which means that the 1st Watchtower Passover must occur on 2017Sivan14.
And the [ones] having eaten the
1NC saints who lived until it became a false church. The 5th watch under
Henschel, began on 1992Chislev30 and ended
on 2002VeAdar13 (2003March22) with his death. His resignation on 2000Heshvan4/5
had no effect since the Governing Body is in fact a democracy which is a
demoncracy. In the first presence fulfilment the church had 5,000 males in it as described in Acts 4:4, then it would
certainly have 5,000 saints who could be male or female].
45 And, immediately [in fact by virtue of the 2nd/3rd fire signs and the understandings of the LW church], he compelled his disciples to board the boat [Research group] and go on ahead to the other-side [peran] toward Bethsaida [house of fish, the LWs], while [ewV] he himself dismissed the crowd (Mark 6).
Mark6 and Matthew14 are parallel and the word andreV for males appears twice so has a greater meaning of saints, whereas women and children appear once so mean women and children. So the greater meaning refers to 5,000 male saints in both Matthew and Mark (since they are a greater male which is also a male). These is no reason to restrict this to be 1NC saints. It should apply to all saints.
The 5 loaves are baked during the 5 presidencies. They are broken when they are served. Russell's food was still being served at the fall of the Watchtower as a true church on 2005Sivan10.
is the research done under a president
Breaking is the distribution of that research to the congregations by the administration.
Loaves (5+3), Fishes (4+2), Baskets (1+1), Boat (2+2), Males (1+1).
Jesus instructed them (the 1NC saints) to recline. But they themselves chose to recline for 100 years. In fact sadly many will continue to recline until they are burnt alive in the bundle of weeds that the Watchtower finally becomes in the fire of the end of adamic mankind...
30 Let both grow together until the harvest [ewV + genitive], and in the appointed-time of the harvest I will tell the reapers, collect first the weeds and bind them into bundles to burn them up, then gather the wheat into my storehouse' (Matthew 13). - see U70
The fragments remain over from the end of the 5th loaf. Since 12 baskets full of fragments were taken up from the 5 loaves.
Loaves are food
from the 5 presidential administrations of the land of FDS1/3
The sea is the bible, the truth, the land is the administrations of the churches, the priesthoods which control access to the bible. So fish comes directly from the bible, not via disciples/priests. Bread is priestly prepared food. Look out for the leaven of the loaves. There is no leaven in fish. Fish are God made, bread is man made. But they also come into a boat, the boat which goes to the other side, so they are from the next true church.
LWs encourage and empower every member of the church to go fishing. We give them fishing tackle, not croissants. The comparison is between deep food from the bible prepared by God and easy to digest food from the priesthood prepared by man.
12 baskets full of Mark for FDS1 run from when the 5th president of FDS1 (Jude) dies or resigns, which was when Pope Linus took over in 67, to 79, when they banned the true food under the second fish head, pope Anacletus. So the 12 baskets of fragments from the loaves are distributed by the first two popes. Get out of her my people! So the 5th presidency ended in 67 when Linus took over. The 12 baskets must be included in the 50 or 100 years of feeding since they did not recline for 112 or 62 years!
5,000 males are 5,000 1NC saints who ate from all 5 loaves.
Compelling disciples to board a boat and go to the other side of the lake whilst dismissing the crowds, is telling the loyal ones to get into a new outfit, a new church whilst leaving the hangers on behind in a dismissed church.
3 So Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he was sitting with his disciples.
4 Now the Passover, the festival of the Jews [a double designation- two greater Passovers. One of which is the new Watchtower Passover], was near.
5 When, therefore, Jesus raised his eyes and observed that a great crowd was coming to him [from the Watchtower, the old home of the 1NCs], he said to Philip: Where shall we buy loaves for these to eat?
6 However, he was saying this to test him, for he himself knew what he was about to do.
7 Philip answered him: 200 Denarii worth of loaves is not enough for them [from 2017Heshvan6 to 2018Iyyar28. Not enough to reach 2018Sivan6, the end of Zoar FRC entry], so that each one may get a little [Zoar means small].
8 One of his disciples, Andrew the brother of Simon Peter, said to him:
9 Here is a little boy [1x] who has 5 barley loaves and 2 small fishes [7x]. But what are these into [eij] so-many? [5000/5=1000, 5000/2=2500. We are being told to do those divisions] [They are the feeding in Zoar by FDS4 of reclined ex JW fire sign responders. 5 loaves from 2017Sivan10 (when the first ripe fruits - barley loaves - 1NC reserves enter into Zoar - all 3EC JWs are ripe fruits since they are sealed into the CRC upon entry - but the 1NC reserves are the first of those ripe fruits to be baptized after the fire signs), the start of the JW baptism, to 2017Heshvan6, the late 5th marriage Pentecost, the loaf offering festival, the first ripe fruits festival, when we resign in favour of the Kingdom Holy Spirit. Then 2 fishes are FDS4 before Zoar and Zoar before the fire signs?]
1,000 BLC day Ark based LW Sabbath from
2017Sivan1 to 2019Adar10 after the 6,000 day working week from 2000Tishri1
to 2017Iyyar30. One works on the land once one has some land to work and once
the land Sabbath system has begun! Workers do
not need to rule or officiate at the alter, they are not necessarily kings or
priests. So ones works then one officiates then on rules.
2500 BLC days of feeding 1NC reserves from 2009Chislev21 (installation to feed 1NC reserves) to 2012Sivan14 (death to Adam and therefore loss of all appointments), and then from 2012Tebbeth21 (re-installation to feed 1NC reserves), to 2017Tammuz8 (2nd Watchtower porch day of 2Chronicles29 - when we have all the 1NC reserves from the Watchtower - who must have jumped off the overhang by 2017Sivan30, the end of 2,000 pigs from 2011Chislev10. So they stop eating fish and start easting bread)
10 Jesus said: Make ye the men [anqrwpoj]
recline as at meal/fall upwards [anapiptw]
[eat spiritually rather than fall downwards
which is to recline to eat physically as the Romans used to do]. Now there was
much food/grass [cortoj] [from
a root meaning court or enclosed place. Generally feeding place or food]
place [the LW
congregation - we have a lot of food, in the literal meaning there was a lot of
grass]. Therefore the men
reclined/fell upwards [anapiptw] about 5,000 to/in number [This
is either 5,000 days
of falling upwards, or 5,000 days until they fall upwards (due to the 2nd fire
sign). Jesus instructs his disciples to have the men recline/fall upwards. 5,000 days
from 2002Chislev21 to 2016Heshvan11].
11 And Jesus took the loaves [5 months - for the 5 barley loaves, after the end of the 5000 day reclining period] and having thanked [1x], he distributed/gave-through [the bread/the food/them] [for the 5 months of verse9] to those reclining/lying upwards [anakeimai] [2x. Lying upwards means eating upwards i.e. eating spiritually - as opposed to lying downwards which would be eating physically. The Romans would recline upon their bellies, face downwards to eat] likewise [he distributed to those reclining] also as much as they wanted out of the small fishes [2x]
It takes them 5000 days from 2002Chislev21, the installation of Laodicea (as a part of the LWs) to feed to 2016Heshvan11. Then 5x+1x+2x = 8 months from from 2016Heshvan11 to 2017Tammuz10-12, the entry days for the 2nd Watchtower Passover, when the Watchtower congregation 1NC reserves finish reclining on the land of the church, Zoar, to eat.
12 But when they had their fill [not
of spiritual food but of heavenly baptised 1NC and 2NC Kings - including/excluding
heavenly baptized 2NC Lords? - on 2017Ab14 (being 12 full baskets before
2018Ab14, the end of Zoar), when all heavenly baptised kings/saints saints finish entering into Zoar - so we have our fill of
kings/heavenly baptised saints] he said to his disciples:
Gather together the fragments that remain over, so that nothing is wasted.
13 Therefore they gathered them together, and they filled 12 baskets [12 months from 2017Ab14 to 2018Ab14, the last day of Zoar. This being another Time of the End. However Kingdom of God, under God, is appointed secularly on 2018Ab16, Zoar first fruits after the end of Zoar] with fragments from the 5 loaves, the barley [ones] [Barley was the first fruits grain offering. But loaves are the Pentecostal offering] which were left over by those who had eaten.
14 Hence when the men [anqrwpoj] saw the signs he performed, they began to say: This is for a certainty the prophet that was to come into the world.
15 Therefore Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone. (John 6 NWT)
John6 + Luke9: anqrwpoj 2x, andrej 2x
Not 5,000 BLC days from 1999Shebat14, when this website went live to
Not 5,000 BLC days from our first public meeting on 2000Nisan15 (where 200 people sat down), takes us to 2013Adar5.
Not 5,000 BLC days from 2000Elul16, when the LW congregation began with the baptism of Tony to 2014Ab6 - then the sentence count of verse11 in months.
Not 5,000 BLC days from the baptism of Jamie, when he fell upwards [anapiptw], on 2000Tishri16 into a pre-existing congregation, the grassy place, to 2014Elul5/6. On 2014Elul21/22 we Got our first Zoar food (the Zoar baptism, the Zoar administration). Then the sentence count of verse 11 in months.
Not 5,000 BLC days from the talk about the 4600 evenings and mornings of Daniel8 from 1992January28 to 2004Elul14 and the 1290 days of Daniel12 from 2004Elul14-2008Nisan14 in Birmingham. This was the first talk attended by JWs and JW spies. It was on Saturday afternoon, 2001Tebbeth29, 5,000 BLC days before 2015Chislev19. then we add the sentence count of Jesus taking the 5 loaves and giving thanks and get to 2015Chislev24/25. After this people start reclining to eat at the LWs.
Not 5,000 BLC days from the first female JW to leave the Watchtower to be baptised into the LWs on 2001Shebat21 to 2015Tebbeth11. Then the 11x + 5x sentence count of verse11 takes us to 2015Tebbeth27.
But indeed 5,000 BLC days from the Laodicean (or was it the LW) feeding installation on 2002Chislev21 (4,000 days of the authorized feeding of Mark8 before 2013Shebat1, the end of Laodicea) to 2016Heshvan11 .Then 5 loaves to 2017Nisan, then 1x of giving thanks to 2017Iyyar then 2x of distributing to recliners to 2017Tammuz. So by 2017Tammuz we have all the Watchtower 1NC reserves. Indeed the 2nd Watchtower Passover entry days are 2017Tammuz10-12.
cortoj means court/enclosed place/garden hence more generally feeding place or food. the LWs have a lot of garden food, i.e. Kingdom understandings. 2 small fishes would be Philadelphia and Zoar before the fire signs? The 12 baskets of fragments are from the 5 barley loaves not from the fishes.
Crossing country from there, Jesus next came near the sea of Galilee, and, after
going up into the mountain, he was sitting there.
30 Then great crowds approached him, having along with them people that were lame, maimed, blind, dumb, and many otherwise, and they fairly threw them at his feet, and he cured them;
31 so that the crowd felt amazement as they saw the dumb speaking and the lame walking and the blind seeing, and they glorified the God of Israel.
32 But Jesus called his disciples to him and said: I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days [euphemism for new system or new church] that they have stayed with me and they have nothing to eat; and I do not want to send them away fasting. They may possibly give out in the way.
33 However, the disciples said to him: Where are we in this lonely place/wilderness going to get sufficient loaves to satisfy a crowd of this size?
34 At this Jesus said to them: How many loaves have you? They said: 7, and a few little-fishes [icqudia].
35 So, after instructing the crowd to recline upon the ground [eat from the congregation - this is when FDS2 starts feeding human to human],
36 he took the 7 loaves  and the fishes [icquaV] [as opposed to little-fishes - literal fish!!! These would be eaten either at the 2NC celebration in the case of Laodicea or perhaps at the Bilhah/Zilpah celebration of the ELC/HLC of FDS2] and, after offering thanks, he broke them and began distributing to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds [that is the feeding methodology of FDS2 and of FDS4 after the second fire sign].
37 And all ate and were satisfied, and as a surplus of fragments they took up 7 provision-baskets [spuridaV] full [7 full months or years].
38 Yet those eating were 4,000 men [andreV], besides women and young children [4000 actual males since this word counts 1x - so this must apply to FDS2 unless Laodicea has 4,000 men when the first loaf starts] (Matthew 15).
39 And having sent the crowds away,
he got into the boat and came into the regions of Magadan (Matthew 15).
1 Here the Pharisees and Sadducees approached him and, to tempt him, they asked him to display to them a sign from heaven.
2 In reply he said to them: [[When evening falls you are accustomed to say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is fire-red';
3 and at morning, 'It will be wintry, rainy weather today, for the sky is fire-red, but gloomy-looking.' you know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but the signs of the times you cannot interpret.]]
4 A wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking for a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah. With that he went away, leaving them behind.
Now the disciples crossed to the other side and forgot to take loaves along.
6 Jesus said to them: Keep your eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
7 So they began to reason among themselves, saying: We did not take any loaves along.
8 Knowing this, Jesus said: Why are you doing this reasoning among yourselves, because you have no loaves, you with little faith?
9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the 5 loaves of the 5,000 and how many baskets [kofinouV] you took up?
10 Or the 7 loaves of the 4,000 and how many provision-baskets [spuridaV] you took up?
11 How is it you do not discern that I did not talk to you about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees [Laodiceans do believe in the 2NC and fed the 4,000] and Sadducees [JWs do not believe in the 2NC and fed the 5,000].
12 Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of the loaves, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees (Matthew 16).
1 In those days, when there was again a big crowd and they had nothing to eat, he summoned the disciples and said to them:
2 I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days that they have remained near me and they have nothing to eat [The Passover nights and unfermented cakes days after Roger Knight was baptised on 2002Elul16 and after Laodicea was appointed/installed as priests to feed the 1NC reserves on 2002Heshvan2/Chislev21? These are 2003Nisan14/Iyyar14 and 2004Nisan14/Iyyar14 and 2005Nisan14/Iyyar14]
3 and if I should send them off to their homes fasting, they will give out on the road [Laodicea was a roadside cafe on the long road, temporally, from the Watchtower to Zoar]. Indeed, some of them are from far away [long ago, been in the Watchtower for ages].
4 But his disciples answered him: From where will anybody here in an isolated place be able to satisfy these people with loaves? [From the LWs of course]
5 Still he went on to ask them: How many loaves have you? They said: 7.
6 And he instructed the crowd to recline [anapiptw
to fall with face upwards, perhaps to ones knees to be baptised? Not anakeimai
to recline to eat] upon the ground [Get yourself in a position next
to the congregation, the ground, or perhaps join the congregation], and he took the 7
loaves [The food of 7 years or
7 2nd 1NC Pentecost from 2006Tammuz11, the 2nd 1NC Pentecost, when the Laodicean
ruling administration over the 1NC
reserves was installed following their 2006Iyyar22 appointment, to 2013Tammuz11
or to 2013Tammuz5, the 2nd 1NC Pentecost. So the 7 loaves run either for 7 years
precisely or from loaf offering festival to loaf offering
festival], he gave
thanks, he broke [them], and
he was giving [the pieces] to his disciples to serve, and they served [the
pieces] to the crowd [It
seems that the 1NC reserves were interpreting LW food for Laodicea]
7 They [the disciples] also had a few little-fishes [icqudia] [2002Heshvan2/Chislev21 to 2006Iyyar22/Tammuz11, their period of feeding before ruling. This is spiritual food that perhaps they worked out for themselves]; and, having blessed these, he told them [the disciples] also to serve these.
8 Accordingly they ate and were satisfied, and they took up surpluses of fragments, 7 provision-baskets [spuridaV] [7 months (Each month being a basket of days which are fragments of a year), from 2013Tammuz5/11 to 2013Shebat1. They must have spied as a true church because they were punished for it by God. They definitely fell as a true church after the night of weeping, after sunrise, on 2013Shebat1. Then on 2013Shebat1 their 40 month wilderness penalty began to 2017Iyyar30 inclusively - see U360. There were no loaves or baskets of fragments for them in the wilderness].
9 Yet there were about 4,000 [men] [4000 days from 2002Chislev21, the start of Laodicean feeding, 95 days after baptism of Roger Knight, to 2013Shebat1, the end of authorised feeding. All 4,000 reclined at Jesus' instruction. 4,000 days is therefore the total length of Laodicean feeding as a true church]. And he sent them away [from him - when they became a false church and from the Watchtower to the LWs] (Mark 8).
10 And immediately [euquV] he boarded the
with his disciples and came into the parts of Dalmanutha.
11 Here the Pharisees came out and started disputing with him, seeking from him a sign from heaven, to put him to the test.
12 So he groaned deeply with his spirit, and said: Why does this generation seek a sign? Truly I say, No sign will be given to this generation.
And having left them, got aboard again [palin], and went off to the opposite shore.
14 And they forgot to take loaves along, and except for one loaf they had nothing with them in the boat.
15 And he began to order them expressly and say: Keep your eyes open, look out for the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.
16 So they went arguing with one another over the fact that they had no loaves.
17 Noting this, he said to them: Why do you argue over your having no loaves? Do you not yet perceive and get the meaning? Do you have your hearts dull of understanding?
18 'Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?' And do you not remember,
19 when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: 12.
20 When I broke the 7 [loaves fulfilment and seals fulfilment, they are broken too!] for the 4,000 [men], how many provision-baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: 7.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning (Mark 8)? [We do now - hopefully] (Mark 8).
Mark 8:1-21 is parallel to Matthew 15:29-38 and to Matthew 16:5-12 (Matthew 15:39-16:4 about Pharisees and Sadducees in Magadan is not parallel to Mark).
Loaves (16), Boat (2), Baskets (2), Provision-baskets (4), Little-fishes (2), Fishes (1) - 2NC Celebration! Day (3)
A basket is a year, a provision basket is a month!
Little fishes are food from non presidentially managed research teams.
Women are sons of the ICC.
Children are sons of the 1AC.
Loaves are feeding campaigns and baskets are time units of leftovers.
In 1993 the writer knew that Jesus was directing him to find the symbolic meaning of the 12 full baskets of fragments (from the loaves) and the 7 baskets of fragments. This is the only account where Jesus directly instructs his disciples to work out the symbolic meaning of the NUMBER of things.
The writer knew it was a critical symbolic understanding and in 1993 he had no idea what it meant. A few years later he worked out that the 12 baskets must stand for 12 years after the end of the authorised food of FDS3 for the 1NC saints, i.e. 12 years from 1995Tishri, i.e. 1995Tishri to 2007Tishri. But this was incorrect. It was very close to the correct interpretation but incorrect because the writer initially thought that everyone would be dead in 2008 and then in 2009, so he could not interpret the 12 full years of months as running from 2000Heshvan4/5, the resignation of Henschel, the 5th loaf of the Watchtower.
However once the LWs worked out, on 2008Shebat1, that the last day of adamic mankind was 2012Heshvan27, from the temple ratio prophecy and the flood timeline, the correct interpretation became possible (actually its 2018Nisan14, the last day of the 11 Times of the Abrahamic Times). We (Gordon Jeff and Dave) did not make the 2012Heshvan27 interpretation until Sunday June 28, 2009.
The correct interpretation of the 12 baskets of fragments is really important, since it gives a maximum period to the last day of Watchtower feeding food from the 5 presidents to some or all of the 1NC saints - as being 2017Sivan10. This requires the 1st Watchtower Passover to be on 2017Sivan14 at the latest.
True Watchtower saints only recline for the full 12 baskets of fragments after the church became false on 2005Sivan10. Sadly many others will continue to recline until they are burnt alive in the bundle of weeds that the Watchtower finally becomes to be burnt in the fire of the end of adamic mankind...
30 Let both grow together until the harvest [ewV + genitive], and in the appointed-time of the harvest I will tell the reapers, collect first the weeds and bind them into bundles to burn them up, then gather the wheat into my storehouse' (Matthew 13).
So now we can see why Jesus went out of his way to ask his disciples to interpret the meaning of the numbers of baskets. In their last fulfilment they give us the last day of entrance into the ark for mankind.
Here is a comparative table of 5 of the 6 accounts of the feedings of the 4,000 and 5,000. We leave the feeding of the 5,000 of John 6 out because it won't fit in the table easily in a book or on a website and because it is slightly different, and so can be treated separately. There are 4 accounts of the feeding of the 5,000 and 2 of the feeding of the 4,000. So there are 4 greater feedings of the 5,000 and there are 2 greater feedings of the 4,000. These all form some coherent whole jigsaw in the greater meaning, the word symbolic meaning, by the Parallel Account Principle. The 4 feedings of the 5,000 are 4 distinct separate feedings that employ the same symbolism and form a coherent whole. As are the 2 feedings of the 4,000.
This section is not all correct. Please view it as an out of date work in progress!!
|Matthew 14 (5,000)||Matthew 15 (4,000)||Mark 6 (5,000)||Mark 8 (4,000)||Luke 9 (5,000)|
|Those in FDS1/WSS1 who do not go to FDS2 and those in FDS3/WSS2 who do not go to FDS4||FDS2 Bilhah (because women were fed)||Those in FDS1/WSS1 who do go to FDS2 and those in FDS3/WSS2 who do go to FDS4||FDS2 Zilpah (because the house existed)||Those in FDS1 and FDS2 who are also fed by
the food made by Jesus himself during his ministry. Food referred to by
John: 25 There are, in fact, many other things also which Jesus did,
which, if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose, the world
itself could not contain the scrolls written (John 21). The 12 were the primary disseminators of this food.
Non scripturally recorded actions and words of Jesus.
|Evening fell, disciples came||Crowd stayed with me 3 days||Hour late||Crowd remained near me 3 days||Day started to decline, the 12 came and said:|
|Place is lonely, hour already passed by (KI)||They have nothing to eat||Place isolated hour late||They have nothing to eat||Because lonely place|
|Send crowds away to villages to buy eatables||Not send fasting give out on 'way'||Send them into the encircling fields and villages to buy eatables||Not sent to their house fasting, give out on way (to house) (KI)||Dismiss crowd into encircling villages and fields, find lodging and provisions.|
|Some from far away|
|You feed||Where lonely place enough loaves||You feed||Where isolated place enough loaves||You feed|
|Buy 200 Denarii loaves?|
|How many loaves||How many loaves have you? Go see!||How many loaves|
|We have nothing but 5 loaves 2 fishes||7 and a few little fishes||5 and 2 fishes||7||We have nothing but 5 loaves 2 fishes,|
|Unless we buy, there were 5,000 men|
|Bring them to me||Symposiums upon green grass, Garden rows of 100 and 50||Said to disciples: have them recline in groups of 50|
|He commanded crowds recline on grass||He instructed crowd recline on ground||He instructed people recline by companies on green grass||He instructed crowd recline on ground||They did so & had them all recline|
|took 5 loaves and 2 fishes||Took 7 loaves & fishes (not little fishes)||Took 5 loaves and 2 fishes||Took 7 loaves||Took 5 loaves 2 fishes|
|Looked up to heaven, said blessing||Gave thanks and broke them||Looked up to heaven said blessing||Gave thanks and broke them||Looked up to heaven, blessed them|
|broke loaves gave them to disciples and they in turn to the crowds||Began distributing to disciples who gave to crowds||Broke loaves gave to disciples to place before people||Began giving to disciples to serve, they served to crowd||Broke them up, began to give to disciples to set before crowd|
|Divided up 2 fishes for all||Also they had few little fishes, having blessed, told them to serve too|
|Surplus of fragments||Surplus of fragments||Fragments (not surplus)||Surpluses of fragments||Surplus (not of fragments) taken up: 12 large baskets of fragments|
|12 large baskets (kofinwn) full||7 hand/provision baskets (sfuridaV) full||12 large baskets full aside from fishes||7 hand/provision baskets full|
|Those eating were 5,000 men besides women & boys||Those eating were 4,000 men besides women and boys||Those who ate from the loaves were 5,000 men||There were about 4,000|
|compelled disciples other side||Sent crowds away||compelled disciples boat opposite shore||Sent them away|
|Sent crowds away||Got boat to Magadan||Sent crowd away himself (KI)||Got boat with disciples, to Dalmanutha|
(KI) means that the NWT (New World Translation) has been amended in accordance with the Greek Kingdom Interlinear Translation. The underlined words (phrases) are repeated in the Greek text (hour late, serve, recline).
The feeding of the 5,000 in John 6 is the odd one out of the 4 feedings:
|John 6 (5,000)|
|Jesus went up mountain, passover near, sitting with disciples|
|Jesus said to Philip: Where buy loaves? Said this to test him|
|Philip: 200 Denarii not enough so each one gets a little|
|Andrew, brother of Simon Peter, said:|
|Boy with 5 barley loaves 2 small fishes (oyaria) : What are these among so many ?|
|Jesus said have men recline as at meal|
|Lot of grass so men reclined, 5,000|
|He gave to those reclining|
|Also as much of the small fishes as they wanted|
|Gather together the fragments remaining nothing is wasted|
|Filled 12 large baskets with fragments remaining from the barley loaves|
Word count (from Greek):
|Matthew 14 (5,000)||Matthew 15 (4,000)||Mark 6 (5,000)||Mark 8 (4,000)||Luke 9 (5,000)||John 6 (4,000)|
|Disciples 4x||Disciples 4x||Disciples 3x||Disciples 3x||Disciples 2x||Disciples 3x|
|Crowds 4x||Jesus 2x||Crowd 2x||Crowd 4x||Crowd 2x||Jesus 4x|
|Loaves 3x||Crowd 3x||Hour 2x||Days 2x||Loaves 2x||Loaves 5x (inc. 2x barley loaves)|
|Fishes 2x||Crowds 2x||Loaves 5x||Loaves 3x||Fishes 2x||(Small) fishes 2x|
|Loaves 3x||Fishes 4x||Fragments 2x|
|Fishes 2x||Symposiums 2x|
|Garden rows 2x|
As the accounts of the two feedings are both parallel
accounts, the repetitions in each separate gospel account are added together to
make a total of word repetitions for each feeding miracle account, because due
to the parallel account principle of the code (see 'The bible code', section
C15), each separate gospel account is part of one whole account in the word
symbolism. Here is the total word count for each of the accounts of the feeding
Feeding of the 5,000:
|Symbolic word/phrase||Total Word count|
Feeding of the 4,000:
|Symbolic word/phrase||Total Word count|
Before you can understand the greater meaning of all of these feeding miracles, which of course refer to the spiritual feeding of the various flocks in the 4 true Christian religions you need to know the following:
|True Christian Religion number||Administration of it: Slave of Matthew 24 or Steward of Luke12||Abbreviated name
(S = Slave or Steward)
|New Covenant Saints in it?||Newer Covenant Saints in it (Bilhah FDS2 or Rachel FDS4)||Presence of Christ, i.e. existence on earth of New Covenant Saints|
|1||Faithful & Discreet Slave 1||FDS1||Yes||No||First Presence|
|2||Faithful, Discreet Steward 1||FDS2||Until 119Elul (August/September)||Yes||First and after|
|3||Faithful & Discreet Slave 2||FDS3||Yes||No||Second Presence|
|4||Faithful, Discreet Steward 2||FDS4||Until 2004Elul (August/September)||Yes||Second and after|
For an explanation of the covenants see - , . For an explanation of the 4 true Christian religions see , .
The Main Symbolism
Now before we start, we listen to the words of Jesus spoken to his disciples but written not for them but for us. Beloved reader, this is Jesus speaking to you personally, it is a Reader Question. Take it this way please. He is speaking to you.
9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the five
loaves in the case of the five thousand and how many baskets you took up?
10 Or the seven loaves in the case of the four thousand and how many provision baskets you took up? (Matthew 16).
19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand [men], how
many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: Twelve.
20 When I broke the seven for the four thousand [men], how many provision baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: Seven.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning? (Mark 8).
So, beloved brother or sister, do you not yet see the point? Do you not yet get the meaning? The Key to understanding the symbolism of the feedings of the 5,000 and the 4,000 is the number of provision baskets taken up in each case. Jesus, God, the holy spirit, is telling you this explicitly and directly. It isnít coded in any knot or obscure twisted symbolism. Now what could these baskets stand for, what could they mean? Joseph has already answered this question in the case of the three baskets of the chief of the bakers (who one presumes made loaves) in Genesis 40:
18 Then Joseph answered and said: This is its interpretation: The three baskets are three days (Genesis 40).
And here his antitype is making the same interpretation as regards the current presence of the Christ:
The word symbolism of all 4 feedings of the 5,000 is as follows:
|Recline||Join the True Christian Religion, prepare to eat food|
|Ground||True Christian Religion|
|Grass (Grows on wet ground)||Water baptised Christians in the true religion|
|Recline on the ground||Join as a result of the efforts of the administration (great food, great understandings)|
|Recline on the grass||Join as a result of the efforts of the congregation (evangelising)|
|Hand Provision basket||??|
|Large Basket||Year of left over food after the fall of FDS1 or FDS3.|
|12 Baskets of fragments||12 Further watches of FDS2 over sanctified Christians after the first two fishes (119Elul - 455Tishri).|
|Surplus of fragments||Food served after the 5th or 7th loaf that is no longer authorised by Jesus. It is past its sell by date.|
|Fragments (not said to be surplus)||Left over food after the 5th loaf which is not necessarily unauthorised by Jesus to be distributed. In fact in the first presence it was still authorised and in the second it was not.|
|3 days with me||Day of cornerstone (Jesus or Russell), Day of Faithful & Discreet Slave (FDS1 or FDS3), then the day of Faithful Discreet Steward (FDS2 or FDS4). During the first two and the start of the third day they remain with the new covenant saints, Jesus' body in FDS1 or FDS3.|
|Nothing to eat||??|
|Opposite shore/Other side||FDS2 from FDS1 or FDS4 from FDS3, i.e. the next true religion, slave of Matthew to steward of Luke|
|Bread||Leavened spiritual food, from the land, understandings prepared by the administration of the 1NC saints. The journalists are the administration the editors are the governing body.|
|Fishes||Hidden food, Coded understandings, prepared by the sea, mankind, but caught/edited by the administration of the 2NC saints. The journalists are all of mankind, the editors are the governing body.|
|Surrounding Villages||Groups of sanctified Christians, not in any true religion. Villages are other religions, but not God's city, i.e. false religions.|
|Surrounding Fields||Personal bible research (a Christian's own food harvested himself from the bible).|
|You feed them||Jesus wants New Covenant Saints to feed the sons of Abraham by the 2AC in the congregation as well|
|Looked up to heaven and said blessing||Blessed food, distributed under heavenly direction.|
|Gave thanks and broke them||Unblessed food, distributed under earthly direction only.|
|Took 7 loaves & fishes (not little fishes)||Paul who had fish food, he was the first fish of FDS2 was also in FDS1 at a high level.|
|Men||Saints (both men and women), Sanctified under the New covenant (5,000) or a Newer covenant (4,000)|
|5,000 men||The 5,000 men of Acts 4:4, the start of FDS1. And the 5,000 men and women who were baptised into the New Covenant from heaven in 1895Tishri by virtue of their having been baptised into the 2AC by the Watchtower through Charles Russell, the Elijah for FDS3. In other words once the membership of the Watchtower had reached 5,000 (which occurred in 1895Tishri)|
|Women||Men and women baptised into the 2AC in the congregation who aren't sanctified into either the New or the Newer covenants|
|Boys||Water baptised Children, girls or boys (over 5 years old) who are too young to be sanctified (under 20 years old).|
NB. The words 'men' 'women' etc. are only mentioned once in each account. But all the parallel accounts make one giant account symbolism. So in fact the words 'men' and 'women' appear twice.
4 However, many of those who had listened to the speech believed, and the number of the men became about 5,000 (Acts 4).
37 And as he was about to be led into the soldiers' quarters,
Paul said to the military commander: Am I allowed to say something to you? He
said: Can you speak Greek?
38 Are you not really the Egyptian who before these days stirred up a sedition and led the 4,000 dagger men out into the wilderness? (Acts 21).
In the literal meaning no, in the symbolic meaning yes.
|5 Loaves||5 feeding programs of the 5 presidents of FDS1 and/or FDS3|
|2 Fishes||2 feeding programs of the 2 presidents of FDS2 and/or FDS4 who preside whilst the New Covenant Saints were still around|
|Symposiums||Individual congregations in FDS2 FDS4, the stewards|
|Garden rows (groups)||Individual congregation in FDS1 FDS3, the slaves|
|12 baskets of fragments (not said to be surplus)||12 years after FDS1 has fallen of clean but out of date food 67 - 79 CE|
|12 baskets of fragments (said to be surplus)||12 years after FDS3 falls of unclean food, from 1994Elul to 2006Elul when all false religions are destroyed by the UN. This is the feeding program of the evil salve of Matthew 24 of the general Watchtower members.|
|7 baskets of surplus fragments||??|
|House (Mark 8)||Temple of Newer Covenant Saints|
|Way (Mark 6)||FDS1 was called 'the way'|
|Groups of 50 and 100 (loaves only)||FDS3 feeds for 100 years from 1895Tishri CE to 1994 CE (100 years inclusively) when it falls. FDS1 feeds for 50 years from 29 CE to 79 CE, 12 years after it falls in 67 Tishri CE|
|Groups of 50 (Loaves and fishes) Luke||100 years from 29Tishri to 128/9, when the second fish ends. Groups of 50 are made 100x from 5,000 men.|
|Buy food||Food from a third party. FDS1 takes food from FDS2 as it's own|
|200 Denarii||Food from a third party for 200 days. FDS3 takes food from FDS4 as its own, this is probably the 200 cubits of John 21.|
|Dalmanutha with disciples||FDS4|
|Sent crowds away||Jesus rejected that true religion. This occurs for WSS1, WSS2, FDS3.|
|5 Barley loaves||5 watches of FDS3 serving food prepared by Charles Russell and his associates before they became 1NC saints. Barley is harvested before wheat.|
|2 small fishes||2 watches of FDS4 serving coded food prepared by Charles Russell and his associates before the became 1NC saints. Food such as, Daniel 4, the Gentile Times, and the understanding that Jesus is the angel Michael and was elevated to the status of a God to be worshipped and prayed to after he ransomed Adam. Jesus must have loved this man.|
|Andrew||Andrew (Peter's Brother) Second presence 1NC saints.|
|Peter||First presence 1NC saints|
|Philip||Unfaithful 1NC, rotten saints|
|Lot of grass||Water baptised Christians.|
|Passover||The 1NC was about to be celebrated again on 1887Nisan14, the first Passover in the second presence.|
|Jesus went up Mountain||Jesus started forming an administration at the full limit of the appointed times to gather together all things again in the Christ|
|12 baskets of fragments from loaves||12 years from 1994Tammuz to 2006Elul. When the loaf administration ends at the fall of Babylon.|
In the case of FDS3, the Watchtower, the 3rd True Christian Religion, the 5 loaves are the five feeding campaigns under the 5 presidents of FDS3, (Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel). These loaves were broken by Jesus and given to his disciples to give to the crowds. But the baskets of fragments were picked up by the disciples without any involvement by Jesus, and the 5,000 were sent away by Jesus before any food was eaten from the baskets. So the 12 years run from 1994Tammuz30, the disfellowshipping of FDS3 and all the Jehovahís witnesses by Jesus, until 2006Elul (it is not accurate to the month, just to the year it would appear, as in the case of the 100 years inclusive of food of FDS3 from 1895Tishri to 1994Tammuz). They end in 2006Elul because this is the end of the 7 years of the 7 horns of the lamb as though slaughtered of Revelation 5 see , which follow after the 7 years of the 7 eyes of said lamb. And the 7 eyes started in 1992Elul, with the arrival of Gordon's first book at the HQ of the Watchtower in Brooklyn. Gordon realised that the 7 years of the eyes ended in 1999Elul, in the very month of 1999Elul. This was his call to get on the white horse with his bow and start conquering. For the first horseman of the Apocalypse is not Jesus, but is the antetypical Joseph. The current bible decoder. This book/website contains some of his arrows which go over the wall of the Watchtower - Genesis 49:22-26.
The two fishes in the case of FDS4, the last true Christian religion are the feeding programs of the two presidents to the 6th and 7th congregations of Revelation 3, Philadelphia and Laodicea. The first 5 presidents of the Watchtower were the angels of the first 5 congregations Revelation 2,3 (Ephesus to Sardis).
Now the food of the Watchtower was loaves, which come from bread which comes from wheat (which is the remnant) which comes from the land which is the administration. But the food of the Lords' Witnesses, the life, is fish, which is a hidden food, which comes from the waters, and the sea, which is not the administration but is those governed by it. Our food comes from the congregation, not from the administration. It is true that the administration serves it up, but they do not produce it.
The UN wipes out all religious organisations from the planet in 2006Elul. The beast kills the Harlot. This is why the lamb loses power in 2006Elul and this is why in Revelation 18 we read:
10 While they stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say: Too bad, too bad, you great city, Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgement has arrived! (Revelation 18).
16 Saying: Too bad, too bad--the great city, clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet, and richly adorned with gold ornament and precious stone and pearl (Revelation 18).
19 And they threw dust upon their heads and cried out, weeping and mourning, and said: Too bad, too bad--the great city, in which all those having boats at sea became rich by reason of her costliness, because in one hour she has been devastated! (Revelation 18).
Too bad, Too bad. A lament two times. Two years, 2006Elul to 2008Elul, the end of Armageddon, see 163.
|Matthew 14 (5,000)||Matthew 15 (4,000)||Mark 6 (5,000)||Mark 8 (4,000)||Luke 9 (5,000)||John (5,000)|
|FDS1/FDS3 who don't make it into FDS2/FDS4||
|FDS1/FDS3 who do make it into FDS2/FDS4||WSS two servings||Those in FDS1 and FDS2 who are fed by the food made by Jesus himself during his ministry. (he was not a new covenant saint - he never needed to be sanctified). Food not recorded in the bible.||Those in FDS3 and FDS4 who are fed by the food made by Russell himself and his co researchers prior to his sanctification in 1884Tishri. After this date he was a 1NC saint so he was giving out bread.|
|The hour has passed by. i.e. a new day has started. Crowds sent away, opposite side, bread but no fish||7 loaves, loaves given thanks. Also fishes eaten.
Send crowds away
|crowd sent away, opposite side, garden rows of 100 and 50 for the bread through disciples. Then, divided fishes for all (not said to go to 50 100 groups). all includes people who did not get the loaves.||'House' is the temple of 2NC which only exists in FDS4.
7 loaves WS and few little fishes SS, two servings. Little fishes blessed loves given thanks.
Sent them away.
|Groups of about 50
Crowd not sent away boat not opposite side, disciples gave out bread and fish
12 baskets of fragments are 12 more presidents of FDS2
|Barley is harvested before wheat. Russell was sanctified in 1884Tishri, the rest of the 1NC saints were sanctified between 1895Tishri and 1955Tishri.|
He gave orders to them to recline all [ones] symposiums, symposiums upon the green grass
They fell up garden rows, garden rows, according to 100 and according to 50 (Mark 6).
Recline them in groups, as if up 50 (Luke 9). 100 years from 29Tishri to 128/9, when the second fish ends.
congregations of 50 strong for 100 years. This was FDS3 1895Tishri to 1994Tammuz, followed by 12 years of fragments to 2006Elul.
Congregations of 100 strong for 50 years. This was FDS1 29 to 67 then 12 inclusive of fragments, that is why fragments were not said to be a surplus. So it runs from 29 to 78/9, So all is symposiums which is FDS2 and FDS4 who get fish, and not said to be all is groups and FDS1 FDS3 who get bread.
5,000 are water baptised?
100 times from 29Tishri to 129Tishri when second fish ends in first presence. Then 12 baskets of fragments are 12 more heads of FDS2. So that it had 14 in total over its 388 years (28 years each).
Green grass is water baptised guys. Ground is no grass, no water baptised guys in case of 4,000.
200 Denarii of loaves of Mark are 29 to 119 and 1884 to 1994?
200 Denarii of loaves of John 200 days of the Watchtower providing food developed by FDS4, whilst representing that God will only reveal understandings to them. This period is yet to commence.