[67] The 4 feeding accounts of the 5,000 and the 2 feeding accounts of the 4,000

  

'Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly' - Robert F. Kennedy

3 [John's disciples buried John and then came and reported that John had been beheaded to Jesus] At hearing this Jesus withdrew from there [his home territory, Capernaum] in a boat into a lonely place for isolation [to the opposite side of the harp shaped 3 sided lake of Chinnereth - meaning Harp, towards Tiberias as in Mark - see verses 22, 32]; but the crowds, getting to hear of it, followed him on foot from the cities.
14
Now when he came forth he saw a great crowd; and he felt pity for them, and he cured their sick ones.
15
But when evening fell his disciples came to him and said: The place is lonely and the hour is already far advanced; send the crowds away, that they may go into the villages and buy themselves things to eat.
16
However, Jesus said to them: They do not have to leave: You give them something to eat.
17
They said to him: We have nothing here but 5 loaves and 2 fishes.
18
He said: Bring them here to me.
19
Next he commanded the crowds to recline on the grass and took the 5 loaves and 2 fishes, and, looking up to heaven, he said a blessing and, after breaking the loaves, he distributed them to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds.
20
So all ate and were satisfied, and they took up the surplus of fragments, 12 baskets full.
21
Yet those eating were about 5,000 men [andreV], besides women and young children.
22
Then, without delay, he compelled his disciples to board the boat and go ahead of him to the other side [Tiberias as in Mark], while he sent the crowds away (Matthew 14).

32 And they got across and came to land in Gennesaret (Matthew 14).

32 [Apostles reported what they had done after having been given authority over unclean spirits] So off they went in the boat [from Capernaum - see Mark 6:1] for a lonely place to themselves [South towards Tiberias on the same side of the lake - see verse 45].
33
But people saw them going and many got to know it, and from all the cities they ran there together on foot and got ahead of them.
34
Well, on getting out, he saw a great crowd, but he was moved with pity for them, because they were as sheep without a shepherd. And he started to teach them many things.
35
By now the hour had grown late, and his disciples came up to him and began to say: The place is isolated, and the hour is already late [i.e. evening time].
36
Send them away, that they may go off into the countryside and villages round about and buy themselves something to eat.
37
In reply he said to them: You give them something to eat. At this they said to him: Shall we go off and buy loaves of 200 denarii and give [them] to the people to eat
38 He said to them: How many loaves have you? Go see! After ascertaining it, they said: 5, besides 2 fishes.
39
And he instructed all the people to recline by companies on the green grass.
40
And they laid themselves down in groups of 100 and of 50.
41
Taking now the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes he looked up to heaven and said a blessing, and broke the loaves up and began giving them to the disciples, that these might place them before the people; and he divided up the 2 fishes for all.
42
So they all ate and were satisfied;
43
and they took up fragments, 12 baskets full, aside from the fishes.
44
Furthermore, those who ate the loaves were 5,000 men [andreV].
45
And, without delay, he compelled his disciples to board the boat and go on ahead to the opposite shore toward Bethsaida, while he himself dismissed the crowd (Mark 6).  

53 And when they got across to land, they came into Gennesaret and anchored ship nearby (Mark 6).

10 [John's disciples are said to bury John but not said to report to Jesus. However the Apostles reported what they had done after having been given authority over demons and sickness] With that he took them along and withdrew to privacy into a city called Bethsaida.
11
But the crowds, getting to know it, followed him. And he received them kindly and began to speak to them about the kingdom of God, and he healed those needing a cure.
12
Then the day started to decline [so evening had not yet fallen]. The 12 now came up and said to him: Dismiss the crowd, that they may go into the villages and countryside round about and procure lodging and find provisions, because out here we are in a lonely place [Jesus slept in Bethsaida but went out into the country for solitude in the day].
13
But he said to them: You give them something to eat. They said: We have nothing more than 5 loaves and 2 fishes, unless perhaps we ourselves go and buy foodstuffs for all these people.
14
They were, in fact, about 5,000 men [andreV]. But he said to his disciples: Have them recline as at meals, in groups of about 50 each.
15
And they did so and had them all recline.
16
Then taking the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes, he looked up to heaven, blessed them and broke them up and began to give them to the disciples to set before the crowd.
17
So they all ate and were satisfied, and the surplus that they had was taken up, 12 baskets of fragments (Luke 9).  

1 [Jesus witness in Jerusalem, meal before the evening] After these things Jesus set off across the sea of the Galilee, [across from] the Tiberias [John 6:23, but the boats out of Tiberias came near the place where they ate the blessed bread, then they went to Capernaum. So this place was probably Bethsaida as in Luke].
2
But a great crowd kept following him, because they were beholding the signs he was performing upon those who were ill.
3
So Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he was sitting with his disciples.
4
Now the Passover, the festival of the Jews, was near.
5
When, therefore, Jesus raised his eyes and observed that a great crowd was coming to him, he said to Philip: Where shall we buy loaves for these to eat?
6
However, he was saying this to test him, for he himself knew what he was about to do.
7
Philip answered him: loaves of 200 denarii are not enough for them, so that each one may get a little 
8
One out of his disciples, Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, said to him:
9
Here is a little boy that has 5 barley loaves [Barley is first fruits, loaves are offered at Pentecost] and 2 small fishes/eatables []. But what are these among so many? []
10
Jesus said: Have the men [anqrwpoV] recline as at meal. Now there was a lot of grass in the place [not English lawn grass but Israeli long grass - reeds - rulers]. Therefore the men [andreV] reclined, about 5,000 in number.
11
So Jesus took the loaves and, after giving thanks, he distributed them to those reclining, likewise also as much of the small fishes as they wanted.
12
But when they had their fill he said to his disciples: Gather together the fragments that remain over, so that nothing is wasted.
13
Therefore they gathered them together, and they filled 12 baskets with fragments from the 5 loaves, the barley [ones] which were left over by those who had eaten (John 6).

[16 When evening fell, his disciples went down to the sea, and, boarding a boat, they set out across the sea for Capernaum [the opposite side to Bethsaida - the Jordan is the divide] (John 6)

22 The next day the crowd that was standing on the other side of the sea [from Capernaum, i.e. at Bethsaida] saw that there was no boat there except a little one, and that Jesus had not entered into the boat with his disciples but that only his disciples had left;
23 but boats from Tiberias arrived near the place where they ate the bread after the Lord had given thanks.
24 Therefore when the crowd [who had eaten] saw that neither Jesus was there nor his disciples, they boarded the little boats [that had come from Tiberias] and came to Capernaum to look for Jesus (John 6).

In Luke 9 and John 6 the crowds are not said to be dismissed.
In Luke 9 the baskets of fragments left are not said to be full.
Matthew and Mark: Opposite side of the sea to Bethsaida, hour late/evening fell, groups of 100 and 50, crowd arrived before the 200 denarii comment in Mark.
Luke and John: Bethsaida (opposite side to Tiberias), day starting to decline (just after midday), all in groups of 50. Crowd arrived after the 200 denarii comment in John.
Matthew and Mark: 5,000 men ate.
Luke and John: 5,000 men reclined.
Matthew and Mark: Have the people/crowds recline on the grass
Luke and John: Have them/the men recline as at a meal

So Mark is parallel to Mathew and John is parallel to Luke. See John for the noun count.

The Feedings of the 5,000 in Matthew 14 and Mark 6

The Watchtower was appointed/installed as priests to feed non reserve 1NC saints on 1901Tishri2/Heshvan21 (2NC first fruits/Pentecost). FDS3 was appointed/installed to rule over all of Jesus' belongings (the saints who were only non reserve 1NC saints at that time) on 1905Nisan17/Sivan6 (1NC first fruits/Pentecost). FDS3 was never appointed over 2NC saints. It lost its appointment over saints at late tablet shattering day on 1998Elul27/29, making way for FDS4 to be appointed over all of the 2NC saints on 2000Tishri2.

On 1998Elul27/29, on late tablet shattering day - see U200, they fell in authority over all the saints and became the evil slave of Matthew24. This is because they denied the Christ 3x in this night, on the Passover nights of 1994Nisan14/1995Nisan14/1996Nisan14/1997Nisan14/1998Nisan14 by refusing to celebrate the one festival that they had to get right correctly after having received instruction on how to do it from Elijah4 by letter of 1994Nisan3 and 1995Nisan10. They did not have enough time to change in 1995 after Gordon warned them that God would no longer forgive. So they were held accountable only from 1996Nisan14 to 1998Nisan14 and Gordon was appointed/installed to feed the 1NC reserves on 1998Tishri2/Heshvan21 as a direct result. Watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees

9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the 5 loaves in the case of the 5,000 and how many baskets you took up?
10 Or the 7 loaves in the case of the 4,000 and how many provision baskets you took up?
11 How is it you do not discern that I did not talk to you about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees. (Matthew 16 NWT)

18 'Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?' And do you not remember,
19 when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: 12.
20 When I broke the 7 for the 4,000 [men], how many provision baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: 7.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning? (Mark 8 NWT)

So the NUMBER of provision baskets full of fragments has a greater MEANING that we have to GET!!!

HERE IS THE MEANING...

18 Then Joseph answered and said: This is its interpretation: The 3 baskets are 3 days. (Genesis 40 NWT)

So we take 12 baskets as being 12 units of time. Sacred years actually.

This is a numerical symbolism. The bible is a history book with no dates. 

But it does have with a load of seemingly irrelevant numbers of people and things scattered throughout the book. 

Jesus is telling us to consider these numbers
Joseph is telling us that they are the dates.

Mark6 and Matthew14 are parallel and the word andreV for males appears twice so has a greater meaning of saints, whereas women and children appear once so mean women and children. So the greater meaning refers to 5,000 male 1NC saints in both Matthew and Mark (since they are a greater male which is also a male). 

Fish (6), Loaves (8), Males (2), Grass (2). So these nouns in particular, since they appear an even number of times take two meanings in total, and so have a greater meaning in the word symbolic thread which is different to the literal meaning. Nouns which appear an odd number of times are invariant in the symbolism.

In Mark 6:30-45 and Matthew 14:13-22, which are parallel accounts because in both accounts Jesus leaves Capernaum for a lonely place on the Capernaum side of the lake towards Tiberias, and then after the feeding the disciples head for Bethsaida on the other side of the lake. This is not the case with John 6 or Luke 9, which are parallel accounts set in Bethsaida and after feeding 5,000 other men, Jesus set sail for Capernaum. 

13 At hearing this Jesus withdrew from there [Capernaum] in boat into a lonely place on his own. But the crowds, having heard, followed him on-foot [adverb] from the cities.
14
So when he got out he saw a great crowd. And he felt-tender-affection for them, and he cured their sick [ones].
15
But [at the time] of late/evening [oyiaj] having become [after 2001Heshvan14, the end of the first part of the 2nd presence] his disciples came to him saying: The place is lonely and the hour has already passed by; send off the crowds, in order that having gone off into the villages they might buy themselves foods [The disciples are asking Jesus to finish off the Watchtower as a true church and send everyone off to eat somewhere else].
16
However, Jesus said to them: They do not have to leave: You give them [something] to eat [form a new church, Laodicea, and feed them].
17
They said to him: We do not have [anything] here but 5 loaves and 2 fishes [icquaj] [We have the food of the 5 presidents of the Watchtower and the food of the Angel of Laodicea and the Angel of Philadelphia, the president of the LWs, whom we spy upon].
18
He said: Bring them here to me [in the form of the 1NC reserves in the Watchtower - my fiance].
19
And having commanded the crowds to recline on the grass [Could be green. Could be yellow. This is the Laodicean congregation from 2003Heshvan21 when they were installed to feed the 1NC reserves], he took the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes [icquaj], and, looking up into heaven, he blessed [them] and, having broken [them] he gave the loaves to the disciples, and the disciples [gave them] to the crowds.
20
So all ate and were satisfied, and they took up the [food] remaining over [the out of date showbread of the LWs], 12 baskets [accusative] full of fragments [12x from 2003Heshvan21 to 2015Heshvan20, the entire length of the feeding program of Laodicea]
21
Yet the [ones] eating were males about [wsei] 5,000 [male 1NC reserves], apart from women [female 1NC reserves] and little-children [paidiwn] [2NC saints in Laodicea].
22
And immediately, he compelled the disciples to step aboard the boat and go ahead of him to the other-side [peran] [The 2 Laodicean spies arrive at Zoar on 2019Abxxx before Jesus joins us], while he sent off the crowds [ended Laodicea as a true church on 2015Heshvan20] (Matthew 14).

30 And the apostles gathered together before Jesus and reported to him all [things] as many as they had done and as many as they had taught.
31
And he said to them: Come, you yourselves, privately into a desolate/lonely place and rest up a little. For the [ones] coming and the [ones] going were many, and they did not have-an-opportunity to eat.
32
So they went off in the boat [from Capernaum] into a lonely place for themselves.
33
But many saw them going and got to know it, and they ran there together on-foot from all the cities and got ahead of them.
34
Well, on getting out, he saw a great crowd, but he felt-tender-affection for them, because they were as [wj] sheep without a shepherd. And he started to teach them many [things].
35
And [at the time] of the hour already having come to be much, his disciples came up to him and said: The place is lonely, and the hour is already much.
36
Send them away [2x], in order that having gone off into the fields and villages in a circle [kuklw] [4x precisely. These are the 4 Prophetic Times, 1440 years, between the end of TCC2 on 435Iyyar21 AD and the start of TCC3 on 1875Iyyar21] they might buy themselves what they might eat [Get their own food from false religion]
37
Answering he said to them: Ye give to them to eat. At this they said to him: Having gone off shall we buy loaves [implied ek] [out] of 200 denarii and give to them to eat? [200 denarii. Is this all the food of the 200 months (6,000 day working week) of the LWs from 2003Heshvan21 to 2020Nisan18 - not quite enough to get them to 2020Ab10, the end of Kingdom seizing? Or 200 days of ascended FDS4 Zoar feeding from 2019Chislev11 to 2020Sivan30, 5 days short of 2020Tammuz5, the installation of the Kingdom]
38
He said to them: How many loaves have you? Go see! After ascertaining it, they said: 5, and 2 fishes [icquaj].

39 And he ordered them to make recline all, symposiums, symposiums, on the greenish/yellow [clwroj] grass [watered/dry grass - so with/without a water baptism].
40
And they reclined garden plot [prasia] garden plot [prasia] [literally: bed of leeks, a bed of leeks], by 100, and by 50 [So there are at least 4 true churches with feeding campaigns for water baptised 1NCs of length 50 or 100 units]. (Mark 6 ED)

The Greek word for green is prasinoj which means leek-green. Liddell and Scott has...

L35576  prasia,  prasia  prasia,, Ionic Greek. &ih,, h`, (pra,son) properly a bed of leeks: generally, a garden-plot, Homer's Odyssey.:-metaphorically., prasiai. prasiai, in companies or groups, New Testament. 
L35578  pra,sinoj 
prasinoj  pra,sinoj( &on; leek-green, light green***
L35581 
pra,son  prason  PRASON a( to,, a leek, Latin: porrum, Aristotle.

L46332  clwro,j  clwroj  clwro,j, pot. cloero,j, a,( o,n, (clo,h) greenish-yellow (like young grass or leaves), pale-green, light-green, green, grassy, Homer's Odyssey., Sophocles., Euripides.; si,tou e;ti clwrou/ o;ntoj Thucydides.
2. yellow, of honey, Homer; avmfi. clwra.n ya,maqon on the yellow sand, Sophocles.
II. generally, pale, pallid, bleached, clwro.j u`pai. dei,ouj Il.;-then, as an epithet of fear, clwro.n de,oj Homer:-yellow, pallid, of persons affected by the plague, Thucydides.

So the leek green would be with a water baptism - which they sat down with in groups of 50 and 100. But Jesus instructs them to continue reclining on the chlorine yellow-green grass after the water baptism ends until the church becomes false - when he can give them no instruction.

Jesus commanded the 5,000 men of Mark6 to recline on the chlorine-green-yellow grass (watered-not watered grass which responds to light). But they fell up in leek-green (fully watered) groups of 100 and 50. These 100x and 50x are therefore feeding periods of true churches from when they first have 5,000 male saints to feed until the end of their water baptisms (when their grass is no longer leek green and becomes Chlorine green-yellow).

41 And having taken the 5 loaves [the 5 presidents of FDS1 whilst it still had a water baptism and before it became the Roman Catholic Church (Peter, John, Timothy, Jude, Epaphras) and the 5 presidents of the Watchtower whilst it had a water baptism (Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel)] and the 2 fishes [icquaj] [the food of the first 2 Popes with fish hats, St Linus (67-75) and St Anacletus (76-88) OR the food of the first two presidents of FDS2, Paul and James we think? In the 2nd presence it was the food of AOP, the the Angel of Philadelphia, the president of the Lords Witnesses and the food of AOL, the angel of Laodicea, the head of the LW sect within the Watchtower], having looked up into heaven [meaning the blessing and the breaking comes from there], he blessed and broke the loaves [a loaf is the food baked by the administration of a president - the research of that administration. A loaf receives a heavenly blessing when the Holy Spirit helps with that research. A loaf is broken when it is turned from research into a teaching. The blessing is on the food not the person so it is not a sanctification] and began giving them to the disciples, in order that they might place them before them; and he divided up the 2 fishes [icquaj] for all.
42
So they all ate and were satisfied;

43 and they took up/raisedup/lifted up/carried off fragments [Jesus did not give them fragments - they took them up - so the fragments are after the Watchtower fell as a true church], ones-filling 12 of baskets [accusative] [quantitative genitive] [12 years, 12 pre made baskets, 12 sacred calendar years from 2006Nisan1, after 2005Iyyar14, the fall of the Watchtower as a true church. These fragments are whole calendar months, which are the fragments of a year. They are not days which would be fragments of fragments of a year. They plural took up fragments from 2 fishes are 2x2x2=8 whole calendar months. Now we know from Mark5 that 2019Sivan30 is when the LAST of the 2,000 pigs from 2013Chislev11, the end of the 2nd presence, jumps off the overhang of the false church of the Watchtower into the sea of the world in order to drown in the waters of the 3EC], and from the fishes [icquaj] [they took up fragments] [2x.2x.2x=8x months from 2019Heshvan10 (when the 3rd Holy Spirit takes the 1NC part of Zoar over), 2020Tammuz5, the installation of the Kingdom of God] 

12 baskets after 2005Iyyar14, from 2006Nisan1 to at least 2018Nisan1 but not to 2018Adar30.
8 fragments of fishes from 2019Heshvan10 2020Tammuz5.

The loaves fed the 5,000 males. The fishes were not said to have fed those 5,000.

So the import of Mark6 is that less than 5,000 1NC reserve saints will be eating Watchtower bread on 2018Adar30. All of them actually leave the Watchtower for Laodicea by 2019Sivan30, the end of the 2,000 pigs of Mark5 from 2013Chislev11. But the last one from outside the Watchtower will join Laodicea or Zoar on 2019Ab10. 

44 And the [ones] having eaten the loaves were 5,000 males [andrej] [5,000 true 1NC saints who remained in the Watchtower until 2001Heshvan14. The 5th watch under Henschel, began on 1992Chislev30 and ended on 2002VeAdar13 (2003March22) with his death. His resignation on 2000Heshvan4/5 had no effect since the Governing Body is in fact a democracy which is a demoncracy].
45
And, immediately [in fact by virtue of the descended 3rd Holy Spirit and the understandings of the LW church], he compelled his disciples to board the boat [Research group] and go on ahead to the other-side [peran] toward Bethsaida [house of fish, the LWs], while [
ewj] he himself dismissed the crowd [ended the Watchtower as a true church on 2005Iyyar14] (Mark 6).

Fish (6), Loaves (8). Males (2), Grass (2) in Mark 6:30-45 and Matthew 14:13-22, which are parallel accounts because in both accounts Jesus leaves Capernaum for a lonely place on that side of the lake towards Tiberias, and then after the feeding the disciples head for the Bethsaida side of the lake. This is not the case with John 6 or Luke 9, which are parallel accounts set in Bethsaida and after feeding 5,000 other men, Jesus set sail for Capernaum. 

Baking is the research done under a president
Breaking is the conversion of research into teaching.

TCC1: 50 years from late 29 after Jesus' installation to feed on 29Heshvan21 when 5,000 1NC male saints were disciples of Jesus to 79Tishri14, when the 1EC water baptism ended. They continue reclining for a further dry 4x of Daniel12, on yellow grass until 84Nisan14, when TCC1 (the Roman Catholic church) fell as a true church.
TCC2: 100 years of FDS2 feeding from 59Chislev21, their installation to feed the 1NCs (2nd to FDS1) to 159Tishri10, the end of the 2nd presence due to the last 1NC leaving his human body and being transferred into his angel (green grass all through).
TCC3: 100 years from 1901Heshvan21, the installation of FDS3 to feed, to 2001Heshvan14, when the 3EC water baptism ended. They continue to recline for a further dry 3x of Daniel12 on yellow grass, until 2005Iyyar14, when the Watchtower fell as a true church.
TCC4: 50 days from 2019Elul21, when we have 5,000 1NC reserves being fed at Zoar, to 2019Heshvan10, when the 3rd Holy Spirit takes the 1NC part of Zoar over. (Green grass all through)

TCC1/TCC2: 5 loaves are the 5 presidents of FDS1, Peter, John, Timothy, Epaphras, Jude. 2 fishes are the next two heads of the church who were the first two Popes, who wear their fish hats, the first two Bishops of Rome, St Linus from 67-76 AD and St Anacletus from 76 to 84Nisan14, when the Roman Catholic church fell as a true church - see U233. Peter was never a Pope, he was never a Bishop of Rome because his ministry was to the Jews - see U42. Or perhaps the two fishes were the first two presidents of FDS2, (Paul and James (not the brother of John or Jesus)).
TCC3/TCC4: 5 loaves are the first 5 presidents of the Watchtower, Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel. Don Adams, the 6th president humbly described himself as a mere administrator. He had no presidential authority. The 2 fishes are AOL and AOP, the Angel of Laodicea (Caleb) and the Angel of Philadelphia (Gordon). The 5 loaves are the angels of Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira and Sardis in Revelation 2,3.

TCC1: 12 baskets full of fragments (calendar months) are whole sacred years from 85Nisan1 to 97Nisan1 and not to 98Nisan1
TCC2:  Fish fragments are not merely for 1NCs of a fallen church but are for everybody in a church that is still going but without any 1NCs who have all been transferred so as not to see death as Enoch was and Jesus was - having an angelic vehicle. But then they are baptised into the death of the Christ, so they lose that angelic vehicle in some kind of ransom and go to Gehenna for a few hours. These run from 159Tishri10, the end of the 2nd presence, the absolute end of FDS2 feeding 1NCs to the installation of the feeding of the sons of the HLC. 8 whole calendar months from 159Heshvan1 to 160Sivan30. So the HLC administration must have been installed to feed in 160Tammuz.
TCC3: 12 baskets full of fragments (calendar months) are whole sacred years from 2006Nisan1 to 2018Nisan1 and not to 2019Nisan1
TCC4: Fish fragments are not merely for 1NCs of a fallen church but are for everybody in a church that is still going but under new management. They are 8 whole calendar months from 2019Chislev1 to 2020Tammuz30. Then salvation ends on 2020Ab10.

The 1st presence ran from 29Tishri10 (when Michael entered into Immanuel and so Jesus was present in the flesh) to 79Tishri14 and 89Tishri14 to 159Tishri10. 
Michael was commissioned to build the temple of FDS1 on 10Tishri2, 22 years before 33Nisan16, when FDS1 was appointed.

Compelling disciples to board a boat and go to the other side of the lake whilst dismissing the crowds, is the first true religion becoming false and Jesus telling the loyal ones to get into a new outfit, a new church whilst leaving the hangers on behind in a dismissed church. The new church Bethsaida, is the house of fish, the church of the fishes - who must therefore be the first 2 presidents of FDS2 and not the first 2 popes. Although there were 2 popes with their silly fish pope hats during the 50 years of the feeding of FDS1.

The Feeding of the 5,000 in John 6

5,000 days to recline of John6. Not from 2001Shebat21, when the first ex JW (Barby) was baptized into the LWs on Saturday February9, 2002 at a hotel in Birmingham to 2015Tebbeth11. And not from 2001Adar19, when the first male ex JW (Ian) was baptized to 2015Shebat9. Not from 2003Heshvan21, when Laodicea was installed to feed the 1NC reserves ( FDS4 having been maledicted by the LW 1NC Alienation Times from 2002Sivan5 to 2009Sivan5  - late 1NC Pentecost to late 1NC Pentecost - for a 2nd appointment which is immediately maledicted). But from 2003Heshvan20 (when the 2nd Laodicean was baptised and so their congregation began, 12 years of the betrayal of Judas, one of the 12, before 2015Heshvan20, the fall of Laodicea).

3 So Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he was sitting with his disciples.
4 Now the Passover, the festival of the Jews [a double designation- two greater Passovers. Is this Jesus coming to visit Zoar? He is not standing but sitting. The Watchtower Passovers on 2019Iyyar14/8Sivan14/Tammuz14/Ab14?], was near.
5 When, therefore, Jesus raised his eyes and observed that a great crowd was coming to him [the great crowd of Revelation 7:9 in fact], he said to Philip: Where shall we buy loaves for these to eat?
6 However, he was saying this to test him, for he himself knew what he was about to do.
7 Philip answered him: 200 Denarii worth of loaves is not enough for them [Is this all the food of the 200 months (6,000 day working week) of the LWs from 2003Heshvan21 to 2020Nisan30 - not quite enough to get them to 2020Ab10, the end of Kingdom seizing? Or 200 days of ascended FDS4 Zoar feeding from 2019Chislev11 to 2020Sivan30, 5 days short of 2020Tammuz5, the installation of the Kingdom], so that each one may get a little [Zoar means small].
8 One of his disciples, Andrew the brother of Simon Peter, said to him:

9 Here is a little boy [1x - non adamic Zoar administration] who has 5 barley loaves and 2 small fishes [7x]. But what are these into [eij] so-many? [5000/5=1000, 5000/2=2500. We are being told to do those divisions] [They are the feeding of Laodiceans from 2019Iyyar20 when they became a true church again. The 2 fishes are FDS4 pre Zoar and FDS4 in Zoar before the JWs turn up. The 5 loaves are food for 1NC reserves. They end when we have our fill of 1NC reserves on 2019Ab10. So they must begin in 2019Adar. All 3EC JWs are ripe fruits (Barley loaves) since they are sealed into the CRC upon entry into Zoar. Actually Laodiceans who got a 4EC water baptism are already CRC sealed. Laodiceans have LW food]

1,000 days of 5 loaves into 5,000. This must be the LW secular Sabbath, 1,000 solar days from 2020Nisan30 to 2022Tebbeth21
2,500 days of 2 fishes into 5,000 is 7 years less 20 days. These might be the feeding of Zoar from 2013Sivan7, our Zoar installation to feed and rule over the 1NCs to 2020Iyyar16, the appointment of the Kingdom of God

10 Jesus said: Make ye the men [anqrwpoj] recline as at meal/fall upwards [anapiptw] [eat spiritually rather than fall downwards which is to recline to eat physically as the Romans used to do]. Now there was much food/grass [cortoj] [from a root meaning court or enclosed place. Generally feeding place or food] in the place [the LW congregation - we have a lot of food, in the literal meaning there was a lot of grass]. Therefore the men [andrej] reclined/fell upwards [anapiptw] about 5,000 to/in number [This is either 5,000 days of falling upwards, or 5,000 days until they fall upwards (due to the 2nd fire sign) or both. Jesus instructs his disciples to have the men recline/fall upwards. 5,000 days from 2003Heshvan21, when Laodicea was installed to feed the 1NC reserves].
11 And Jesus took the loaves [5 months - for the 5 barley loaves, after the end of the 5000 day reclining period] and having thanked [1x], he distributed/gave-through [the bread/the food/them] [for the 5 months of verse9] to those reclining/lying upwards [anakeimai] [2x - men and women and children. Lying upwards means eating upwards i.e. eating spiritually - as opposed to lying downwards which would be eating physically. The Romans would recline upon their bellies, face downwards to eat] likewise [he distributed] also as much as they wanted out of the small fishes [1x.2x=2x] 

It takes them 5000 days from 2003Heshvan21, when Laodicea was installed to feed to 2017Tishri10. Then the Zoar 1NC installation gap from 2012Sivan14 to 2013Sivan7 (when FDS4 was reappointed both to feed and to rule whereas Laodicea was reappointed only to feed the resurrected non adamics 1NCs).  4 Jubilees may increase this period actually by 3 months and 14 days since the 1st Kingdom Jubilee is 2012Sivan1-30. Because one is not reclining as at a meal during a Jubilee when no feeding is permitted. LWs have Jubilees. Zoar has Jubilees. Laodiceans were under 4EC law and then were non adamic and so had them too. So these 5,000 run from 2003Heshvan21 to 2017Tishri10 extended to 2018Shebat3 by the Zoar 1NC installation gap from 2012Sivan14 to 2013Sivan7 and 4 Jubilee months. Then Jesus feeds with the 2 fishes and the 5 loaves. The 2 fishes must run from 2018Shebat3 to 2018Adar30, the end of the continuous 40 month Laodicean wilderness period from 2015Chislev1. Then the 5 loaves themselves are 5 months of Jesus feeding LW food to 1NC reserves in Laodicea from 2019Nisan1 to 2019Elul1/2, which is MENE MENE TEKEL and PARSIN for LAodicea from 2019Iyyar20.

12 But when they had their fill [Not of spiritual food, but of 1NC saints on 2019Ab10] he said to his disciples: Gather together the fragments that remain over, so that nothing is wasted.
13 Therefore they gathered them together, and they filled 12 baskets [12 months from 2019Ab10, when all the 1NC saints have entered into Zoar, to 2020Ab10, the last day of feeding for salvation] with fragments from the 5 loaves, the barley [ones] [Barley was the first fruits grain offering. But loaves are the Pentecostal offering] which were left over by those who had eaten.
14
Hence when the men [anqrwpoj] saw the signs he performed, they began to say: This is for a certainty the prophet that was to come into the world.
15 Therefore Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone. (John 6 NWT)

John6 + Luke9: anqrwpoj 2x, andrej 2x

Not 5,000 BLC days from our first public meeting on 2000Nisan15 (where 200 people sat down), takes us to 2013Adar5. 
Not 5,000 BLC days from 2000Elul16, when the LW congregation began with the baptism of Tony to 2014Ab6 - then the sentence count of verse11 in months.
Not 5,000 BLC days from the baptism of Jamie, when he fell upwards [anapiptw], on 2000Tishri16 into a pre-existing congregation, the grassy place, to 2014Elul5/6. On 2014Elul21/22 we Got our first Zoar food (the Zoar baptism, the Zoar administration). Then the sentence count of verse 11 in months.
Not 5,000 BLC days from the talk about the 4600 evenings and mornings of Daniel8 from 1992January28 to 2004Elul14 and the 1290 days of Daniel12 from 2004Elul14-2008Nisan14 in Birmingham. This was the first talk attended by JWs and JW spies. It was on Saturday afternoon, 2001Tebbeth29, 5,000 BLC days before 2015Chislev19. then we add the sentence count of Jesus taking the 5 loaves and giving thanks and get to 2015Chislev24/25. After this people start reclining to eat at the LWs.
Not 5,000 BLC days from the first female JW to leave the Watchtower to be baptised into the LWs on 2001Shebat21 to 2015Tebbeth11. Then the sentence count of verse11. 
But indeed 5,000 BLC days of Laodicean feeding of the Laodicean congregation from 2003Heshvan21 (12 years of betrayal by Judas before 2015Heshvan20) to 2017Tishri10. Then the Zoar 1NC installation gap from 2012Sivan14 to 2013Sivan7, then 4 Jubilee months extend the period to 2018Shebat3, then 2 fishes to 2019Nisan1, the first day after the end of the 40 months wilderness period, the start of the Acceptable year of Isaiah61 and when Laodicea is given the two wings of the great eagle of Revelation12, the 3rd Holy Spirit, the 1st and 2nd presence wings. Then the 5 loaves run from 2019Nisan1 to 2019Ab10, the last entry day for 1NC reserves into the Watchtower Passovers.

cortoj means court/enclosed place/garden hence more generally feeding place or food. the LWs have a lot of garden food, i.e. Kingdom understandings.  2 small fishes would be Philadelphia and Zoar before the fire signs? The 12 baskets of fragments are from the 5 barley loaves not from the fishes.

Luke 9 which is parallel to John6, is about the 50 days of FDS4 actually feeding 1NC reserves directly.

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The Feedings of the 4,000 in Matthew 15 and Mark 8 and the do you not yet see the point in Matthew 15 and Mark 8

29 Crossing country from there, Jesus next came near the sea of Galilee, and, after going up into the mountain, he was sitting there.
30 Then great crowds approached him, having along with them people that were lame, maimed, blind, dumb, and many otherwise, and they fairly threw them at his feet, and he cured them;
31 so that the crowd felt amazement as they saw the dumb speaking and the lame walking and the blind seeing, and they glorified the God of Israel.
32 But Jesus called his disciples to him and said: I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days [euphemism for new system or new church] that they have stayed with me and they have nothing to eat; and I do not want to send them away fasting. They may possibly give out in the way.
33 However, the disciples said to him: Where are we in this lonely place/wilderness going to get sufficient loaves to satisfy a crowd of this size?
34 At this Jesus said to them: How many loaves have you? They said: 7, and a few little-fishes [icqudia].
35 So, after instructing the crowd to recline upon the ground [eat from the congregation - this is when FDS2 starts feeding human to human],
36 he took the 7 loaves [] and the fishes [icquaV] [as opposed to little-fishes - literal fish!!! These would be eaten either at the 2NC celebration in the case of Laodicea or perhaps at the Bilhah/Zilpah celebration of the ELC/HLC of FDS2] and, after offering thanks, he broke them and began distributing to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds [that is the feeding methodology of FDS2 and of FDS4 after the second fire sign].
37 And all ate and were satisfied, and as a surplus of fragments they took up 7 provision-baskets [spuridaV] full [7 full months or years].
38 Yet those eating were 4,000 men [andreV], besides women and young children [4000 actual males since this word counts 1x - so this must apply to FDS2 unless Laodicea has 4,000 men when the first loaf starts] (Matthew 15).

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39 And having sent the crowds away, he got into the boat and came into the regions of Magadan (Matthew 15).

MATTHEW CHAPTER 16
1
Here the Pharisees and Sadducees approached him and, to tempt him, they asked him to display to them a sign from heaven.
2
In reply he said to them: [[When evening falls you are accustomed to say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is fire-red';
3
and at morning, 'It will be wintry, rainy weather today, for the sky is fire-red, but gloomy-looking.' you know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but the signs of the times you cannot interpret.]]
4
A
wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking for a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah. With that he went away, leaving them behind.
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5 Now the disciples crossed to the other side and forgot to take loaves along.
6 Jesus said to them: Keep your eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
7 So they began to reason among themselves, saying: We did not take any loaves along.
8
Knowing this, Jesus said: Why are you doing this reasoning among yourselves, because you have no loaves, you with little faith?
9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the 5 loaves of the 5,000 and how many baskets [kofinouV] you took up?
10 Or the 7 loaves of the 4,000 and how many provision-baskets [spuridaV] you took up?
11 How is it you do not discern that I did not talk to you about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees [Laodiceans do believe in the 2NC and fed the 4,000] and Sadducees [JWs do not believe in the 2NC and fed the 5,000].
12 Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of the loaves, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees (Matthew 16).

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29 Crossing country from there, Jesus next came near the sea of Galilee, and, after going up into the mountain, he was sitting there.
30 Then great crowds approached him, having along with them people that were lame, maimed, blind, dumb, and many otherwise, and they fairly threw them at his feet, and he cured them;
31 so that the crowd felt amazement as they saw the dumb speaking and the lame walking and the blind seeing, and they glorified the God of Israel.
32 But Jesus called his disciples to him and said: I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days [euphemism for new system or new church] that they have stayed with me and they have nothing to eat; and I do not want to send them away fasting. They may possibly give out in the way.
33 However, the disciples said to him: Where are we in this lonely place/wilderness going to get sufficient loaves to satisfy a crowd of this size?
34 At this Jesus said to them: How many loaves have you? They said: 7, and a few little-fishes [icqudia].
35 So, after instructing the crowd to recline upon the ground [eat from the congregation - this is when FDS2 starts feeding human to human],
36 he took the 7 loaves [] and the fishes [icquaV] [as opposed to little-fishes - literal fish!!! These would be eaten either at the 2NC celebration in the case of Laodicea or perhaps at the Bilhah/Zilpah celebration of the ELC/HLC of FDS2] and, after offering thanks, he broke them and began distributing to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds [that is the feeding methodology of FDS2 and of FDS4 after the second fire sign].
37 And all ate and were satisfied, and as a surplus of fragments they took up 7 provision-baskets [spuridaV] full [7 full months or years].
38 Yet those eating were 4,000 men [andreV], besides women and young children [4000 actual males since this word counts 1x - so this must apply to FDS2 unless Laodicea has 4,000 men when the first loaf starts] (Matthew 15).

1 In those days, when there was again a big crowd and they had nothing to eat, he summoned the disciples and said to them:
2 I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days that they have remained near me and they have nothing to eat [The Passover nights and unfermented cakes days after Roger Knight was baptised on 2002Elul16. These are 2003Nisan14/Iyyar14 and 2004Nisan14/Iyyar14 and 2005Nisan14/Iyyar14]
3 and if I should send them off to their homes fasting, they will give out on the road [Laodicea was a roadside cafe on the long road, temporally, from the Watchtower to Zoar]. Indeed, some of them are from far away [long ago, been in the Watchtower for ages].
4 But his disciples answered him: From where will anybody here in an isolated place/desert/wilderness [Laodicea is the isolated place] be able to satisfy these people with loaves? [From the LWs of course]
5 Still he went on to ask them: How many loaves have you? They said: 7.
6
And he instructed the crowd to recline [anapiptw to fall with face upwards, perhaps to ones knees to be baptised? Not anakeimai to recline to eat] upon the ground [Get yourself in a position next to the congregation, the ground, or perhaps join the congregation]
, and he took the 7 loaves [These 7 loaves and 7 baskets of fragments could run from loaf offering festival to loaf offering festival, from Pentecost to Pentecost. But they must run from the restart of the presence when Jesus joins Laodicea on 2006Iyyar10-12 to the end of their feeding with him present on 2013Chislev11 which is the Jericho period of 7 years and 7 months], he gave thanks, he broke [them], and he was giving [the pieces] to his disciples to serve, and they served [the pieces] to the crowd [It seems that the 1NC reserves were interpreting LW food for Laodicea] 
7
They [the disciples] also had a few little-fishes [icqudia] []; and, having blessed these, he told them [the disciples] also to serve these [Jesus did not himself handle these].
8
Accordingly they ate and were satisfied, and they took up surpluses [2 surpluses - NOT 2 sets of 7 loaves] of fragments, 7 provision-baskets [spuridaV] [7 months (Each month being a basket of days which are fragments of a year). Laodicea must have spied as a true church because they were punished for it by God. They fell as a true church on 2015Heshvan20 after their night of weeping because their 4,000 discontinuous days of feeding expired. Their 40 whole calendar month gapped wilderness penalty ran from 2015Chislev1 to 2018Adar30 - see U360. There were no loaves or baskets of fragments for them in the wilderness. Then they were re-appointed/re-installed as a true non adamic dry church on 2019Iyyar20/Tammuz9. Their 1260 days of prophesying in sackcloth ran from 2015Heshvan20 to 2019Iyyar20].
9 Y
et there were about 4,000 [men] [4000 days from 2004Tishri11, when the first 1NC reserves were fed by Laodicea, to 2015Heshvan20, the end of authorised feeding. All 4,000 reclined at Jesus' instruction (i.e. in a true church)]. And he sent them away [from him - when Laodicea became a false church and from the Watchtower to the LWs]  (Mark 8).

Jesus cannot give anything to anybody directly until he is present on 2006Iyyar10. But he can give from heaven to LWs who give to Laodiceans from 2003Heshvan21.

Laodicean feeding of 1NC reserves. 
Laodicea fed the 1NC reserves for 4,000 days (11 years and 40 days) from 2004Tishri11 (after Atonement day) to 2015Heshvan20 (when they fell as a true church). 
And Laodicea fed them with Jesus present from 2006Iyyar10-12 for 7 years and 7 full months to 2013Chislev11.

Then another 7 months of feeding during the Laodicean Exedenic Times after reappointment from 2019Iyyar20 to 2019Chislev20? These being the 2nd surplus, the 2nd 7 baskets of fragments? A malediction must be the loss of something that you have. So the Laodicean Exedenic Times must begin on2019Iyyar20, not on 2019Nisan15.

Both Laodicea and FDS4 were appointed/installed to feed and to rule over the 1NC reserves Isaaically on 2013Nisan8/Tammuz7 (3rd to adamic Laodicea and adamic FDS4). 

10 And immediately [euquV] he boarded the boat with his disciples and came into the parts of Dalmanutha.  
11 Here the Pharisees came out and started disputing with him, seeking from him a sign from heaven, to put him to the test.
12 So he groaned deeply with his spirit, and said: Why does this generation seek a sign? Truly I say, No sign will be given to this generation.

13 And having left them, got aboard again [palin], and went off to the opposite shore.
14 And they forgot to take
loaves along, and except for one loaf they had nothing with them in the boat.
15 And he began to order them expressly and say: Keep your eyes open, look out for the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.
16 So they went arguing with one another over the fact that they had no loaves.
17 Noting this, he said to them: Why do you argue over your having no loaves? Do you not yet perceive and get the meaning? Do you have your hearts dull of understanding?
18 'Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?' And do you not remember,
19 when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: 12.
20 When I broke the 7 [loaves fulfilment and seals fulfilment, they are broken too!] for the 4,000 [men], how many provision-baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: 7.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning (Mark 8)? [We do now - hopefully] (Mark 8).

Mark 8:1-21 is parallel to Matthew 15:29-38 and to Matthew 16:5-12 (Matthew 15:39-16:4 about Pharisees and Sadducees in Magadan is not parallel to Mark). 

Loaves (16), Boat (2), Baskets (2), Provision-baskets (4), Little-fishes (2), Fishes (1) - 2NC Celebration! Day (3)

A basket is a year, a provision basket is a month!

Little fishes are food from non presidentially managed research teams.
Women are sons of the ICC.
Children are sons of the 1AC. 
Loaves are feeding campaigns and baskets are time units of leftovers.

Do you not yet get the meaning? - Doh!

9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the 5 loaves in the case of the 5,000 and how many baskets you took up?
10 Or the 7 loaves in the case of the 4,000 and how many provision baskets you took up?
11 How is it you do not discern that I did not talk to you about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees. (Matthew 16 NWT)

18 'Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?' And do you not remember,
19 when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: 12.
20 When I broke the 7 for the 4,000 [men], how many provision baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: 7.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning? (Mark 8 NWT)

So the NUMBER of provision baskets full of fragments has a greater MEANING that we have to GET!!!

18 Then Joseph answered and said: This is its interpretation: The 3 baskets are 3 days. (Genesis 40 NWT)

So we take 12 baskets as being 12 units of time. Sacred years actually.

In 1993 the writer knew that Jesus was directing him to find the symbolic meaning of the 12 full baskets of fragments (from the loaves) and the 7 baskets of fragments. This is the only account where Jesus directly instructs his disciples to work out the symbolic meaning of the NUMBER of things. 

The writer knew it was a critical symbolic understanding and in 1993 he had no idea what it meant. A few years later he worked out that the 12 baskets must stand for 12 years after the end of the authorised food of FDS3 for the 1NC saints, i.e. 12 years from 1995Tishri, i.e. 1995Tishri to 2007Tishri. But this was incorrect. It was very close to the correct interpretation but incorrect because the writer initially thought that everyone would be dead in 2008 and then in 2009, so he could not interpret the 12 full years of months as running from 2000Heshvan4/5, the resignation of Henschel, the 5th loaf of the Watchtower.

However once the LWs worked out, on 2008Shebat1, that the last day of adamic mankind was 2012Heshvan27, from the temple ratio prophecy and the flood timeline, then a better interpretation became possible. We (Gordon Jeff and Dave) did not make the 2012Heshvan27 interpretation until Sunday June 28, 2009. 

But actually 5,000 true Watchtower 1NC reserve saints only recline for the full 12 baskets of fragments (Nisan1 sacred years from 2006Nisan1 to 2018Nisan1) and a part of the 13th after the church became false on 2005Iyyar14. So we can finally deduce from this that by 2018Adar30 less than 5,000 1NC reserves will be eating Watchtower food whilst in that church. Sadly many others will continue to recline until they are burnt alive in the bundle of weeds that the Watchtower finally becomes.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest [ewV + genitive], and in the appointed-time of the harvest I will tell the reapers, collect first the weeds and bind them into bundles to burn them up, then gather the wheat into my storehouse' (Matthew 13).

So now we can see why Jesus went out of his way to ask his disciples to interpret the meaning of the numbers of baskets. In their last fulfilment they give us the last day of entrance into the ark for mankind. 

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Old Incorrect Interpretation...

Here is a comparative table of 5 of the 6 accounts of the feedings of the 4,000 and 5,000. We leave the feeding of the 5,000 of John 6 out because it won't fit in the table easily in a book or on a website and because it is slightly different, and so can be treated separately. There are 4 accounts of the feeding of the 5,000 and 2 of the feeding of the 4,000. So there are 4 greater feedings of the 5,000 and there are 2 greater feedings of the 4,000. These all form some coherent whole jigsaw in the greater meaning, the word symbolic meaning, by the Parallel Account Principle. The 4 feedings of the 5,000 are 4 distinct separate feedings that employ the same symbolism and form a coherent whole. As are the 2 feedings of the 4,000.

This section is not all correct. Please view it as an out of date work in progress!!

Matthew 14 (5,000) Matthew 15 (4,000) Mark 6 (5,000) Mark 8 (4,000) Luke 9 (5,000)
Those in FDS1/WSS1 who do not go to FDS2 and those in FDS3/WSS2 who do not go to FDS4 FDS2 Bilhah (because women were fed) Those in FDS1/WSS1 who do go to FDS2 and those in FDS3/WSS2 who do go to FDS4 FDS2 Zilpah (because the house existed) Those in FDS1 and FDS2 who are also fed by the food made by Jesus himself during his ministry. Food referred to by John: 25 There are, in fact, many other things also which Jesus did,
which, if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose, the world
itself could not contain the scrolls written (John 21). The 12 were the primary disseminators of this food.
Non scripturally recorded actions and words of Jesus.
Evening fell, disciples came Crowd stayed with me 3 days Hour late Crowd remained near me 3 days Day started to decline, the 12 came and said:
Place is lonely, hour already passed by (KI) They have nothing to eat Place isolated hour late They have nothing to eat Because lonely place
Send crowds away to villages to buy eatables Not send fasting give out on 'way' Send them into the encircling fields and villages to buy eatables Not sent to their house fasting, give out on way (to house) (KI) Dismiss crowd into encircling villages and fields, find lodging and provisions.
      Some from far away  
You feed Where lonely place enough loaves You feed Where isolated place enough loaves  You feed
    Buy 200 Denarii loaves?    
  How many loaves How many loaves have you? Go see! How many loaves  
We have nothing but 5 loaves 2 fishes 7 and a few little fishes 5 and 2 fishes 7 We have nothing but 5 loaves 2 fishes, 
        Unless we buy, there were 5,000 men
Bring them to me   Symposiums upon green grass, Garden rows of 100 and 50   Said to disciples: have them recline in groups of 50 
He commanded crowds recline on grass He instructed crowd recline on ground He instructed people recline by companies on green grass He instructed crowd recline on ground They did so & had them all recline
took 5 loaves and 2 fishes Took 7 loaves & fishes (not little fishes)  Took 5 loaves and 2 fishes Took 7 loaves Took 5 loaves 2 fishes
Looked up to heaven, said blessing Gave thanks and broke them Looked up to heaven said blessing Gave thanks and broke them Looked up to heaven, blessed them
broke loaves gave them to disciples and they in turn to the crowds Began distributing to disciples who gave to crowds  Broke loaves gave to disciples to place before people Began giving to disciples to serve, they served to crowd Broke them up, began to give to disciples to set before crowd 
    Divided up 2 fishes for all Also they had few little fishes, having blessed, told them to serve too  
Surplus of fragments  Surplus of fragments Fragments (not surplus) Surpluses of fragments Surplus (not of fragments) taken up: 12 large baskets of fragments
12 large baskets (kofinwn) full 7 hand/provision baskets (sfuridaV) full 12 large baskets full aside from fishes 7 hand/provision baskets full  
Those eating were 5,000 men besides women & boys Those eating were 4,000 men besides women and boys Those who ate from the loaves were 5,000 men There were about 4,000  
compelled disciples other side Sent crowds away  compelled disciples boat opposite shore Sent them away  
Sent crowds away Got boat to Magadan Sent crowd away himself (KI) Got boat with disciples, to Dalmanutha  

(KI) means that the NWT (New World Translation) has been amended in accordance with the Greek Kingdom Interlinear Translation. The underlined words (phrases) are repeated in the Greek text (hour late, serve, recline). 

The feeding of the 5,000 in John 6 is the odd one out of the 4 feedings:

John 6 (5,000)
Jesus went up mountain, passover near, sitting with disciples
Jesus said to Philip: Where buy loaves? Said this to test him
Philip: 200 Denarii not enough so each one gets a little
Andrew, brother of Simon Peter, said:  
Boy with 5 barley loaves 2 small fishes (oyaria) : What are these among so many ?
Jesus said have men recline as at meal
Lot of grass so men reclined, 5,000 
Took loaves
Gave thanks 
He gave to those reclining
Also as much of the small fishes as they wanted
Gather together the fragments remaining nothing is wasted
Filled 12 large baskets with fragments remaining from the barley loaves

Word count (from Greek):

Matthew 14 (5,000) Matthew 15 (4,000) Mark 6 (5,000) Mark 8 (4,000) Luke 9 (5,000) John 6 (4,000)
Disciples  4x Disciples 4x Disciples 3x Disciples 3x Disciples 2x Disciples 3x
Crowds 4x Jesus 2x Crowd 2x Crowd 4x Crowd 2x Jesus 4x
Loaves 3x Crowd 3x Hour 2x Days 2x Loaves 2x  Loaves 5x (inc. 2x barley loaves)
Fishes 2x Crowds 2x Loaves 5x Loaves 3x Fishes 2x (Small) fishes 2x
  Loaves 3x Fishes 4x      Fragments 2x
  Fishes 2x Symposiums 2x      
    Garden rows 2x      

As the accounts of the two feedings are both parallel accounts, the repetitions in each separate gospel account are added together to make a total of word repetitions for each feeding miracle account, because due to the parallel account principle of the code (see 'The bible code', section C15), each separate gospel account is part of one whole account in the word symbolism. Here is the total word count for each of the accounts of the feeding miracles.

Feeding of the 5,000:                                      

Symbolic word/phrase Total Word count
Disciples 9x
Crowds 4x
Crowd 4x
Loaves 10x
Fishes 8x
Symposiums 2x
Garden rows 2x

Feeding of the 4,000:

Symbolic word/phrase Total Word count
Disciples 10x
Jesus 6x
Crowd 7x
Crowds 2x
Loaves 11x
Barley Loaves 2x
Days 2x
Fishes 4x
Small fishes 2x
Fragments 2x


Before you can understand the greater meaning of all of these feeding miracles, which of course refer to the spiritual feeding of the various flocks in the 4 true Christian religions you need to know the following:

True Christian Religion number Administration of it: Slave of Matthew 24 or Steward of Luke12 Abbreviated name
(S = Slave or Steward)
New Covenant Saints in it?  Newer Covenant Saints in it (Bilhah FDS2 or Rachel FDS4) Presence of Christ, i.e. existence on earth of New Covenant Saints
1 Faithful & Discreet Slave 1 FDS1 Yes No First Presence
2 Faithful, Discreet Steward 1 FDS2 Until 119Elul (August/September) Yes First and after
3 Faithful & Discreet Slave 2 FDS3 Yes No Second Presence
4 Faithful, Discreet Steward 2 FDS4 Until 2004Elul (August/September) Yes Second and after

For an explanation of the covenants see - [11], [32]. For an explanation of the 4 true Christian religions see [33], [34].

The Main Symbolism

Now before we start, we listen to the words of Jesus spoken to his disciples but written not for them but for us. Beloved reader, this is Jesus speaking to you personally, it is a Reader Question. Take it this way please. He is speaking to you.

9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the five loaves in the case of the five thousand and how many baskets you took up?
10 Or the seven loaves in the case of the four thousand and how many provision baskets you took up? (Matthew 16).

19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: Twelve.
20 When I broke the seven for the four thousand [men], how many provision baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: Seven.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning? (Mark 8).

So, beloved brother or sister, do you not yet see the point? Do you not yet get the meaning? The Key to understanding the symbolism of the feedings of the 5,000 and the 4,000 is the number of provision baskets taken up in each case. Jesus, God, the holy spirit, is telling you this explicitly and directly. It isnt coded in any knot or obscure twisted symbolism. Now what could these baskets stand for, what could they mean? Joseph has already answered this question in the case of the three baskets of the chief of the bakers (who one presumes made loaves) in Genesis 40:

18 Then Joseph answered and said: This is its interpretation: The three baskets are three days (Genesis 40).

And here his antitype is making the same interpretation as regards the current presence of the Christ:

The word symbolism of all 4 feedings of the 5,000 is as follows:

Recline Join the True Christian Religion, prepare to eat food
Ground True Christian Religion
Grass (Grows on wet ground) Water baptised Christians in the true religion
Recline on the ground Join as a result of the efforts of the administration (great food, great understandings)
Recline on the grass Join as a result of the efforts of the congregation (evangelising)
Hand Provision basket ??
Large Basket Year of left over food after the fall of FDS1 or FDS3.
12 Baskets of fragments 12 Further watches of FDS2 over sanctified Christians after the first two fishes (119Elul - 455Tishri).
Surplus of fragments Food served after the 5th or 7th loaf that is no longer authorised by Jesus. It is past its sell by date.
Fragments (not said to be surplus) Left over food after the 5th loaf which is not necessarily unauthorised by Jesus to be distributed. In fact in the first presence it was still authorised and in the second it was not.
3 days with me Day of cornerstone (Jesus or Russell), Day of Faithful & Discreet Slave (FDS1 or FDS3), then the day of Faithful Discreet Steward (FDS2 or FDS4). During the first two and the start of the third day they remain with the new covenant saints, Jesus' body in FDS1 or FDS3.
Nothing to eat ??
Opposite shore/Other side FDS2 from FDS1 or FDS4 from FDS3, i.e. the next true religion, slave of Matthew to steward of Luke
Bread Leavened spiritual food, from the land, understandings prepared by the administration of the 1NC saints. The journalists are the administration the editors are the governing body.
Fishes Hidden food, Coded understandings, prepared by the sea, mankind, but caught/edited by the administration of the 2NC saints. The journalists are all of mankind, the editors are the governing body.
Surrounding Villages Groups of sanctified Christians, not in any true religion. Villages are other religions, but not God's city, i.e. false religions.
Surrounding Fields Personal bible research (a Christian's own food harvested himself from the bible).
You feed them Jesus wants New Covenant Saints to feed the sons of Abraham by the 2AC in the congregation as well
Looked up to heaven and said blessing Blessed food, distributed under heavenly direction.
Gave thanks and broke them Unblessed food, distributed under earthly direction only.
Took 7 loaves & fishes (not little fishes)  Paul who had fish food, he was the first fish of FDS2 was also in FDS1 at a high level.
Men Saints (both men and women), Sanctified under the New covenant (5,000) or a Newer covenant (4,000)
5,000 men The 5,000 men of Acts 4:4, the start of FDS1. And the 5,000 men and women who were baptised into the New Covenant from heaven in 1895Tishri by virtue of their having been baptised into the 2AC by the Watchtower through Charles Russell, the Elijah for FDS3. In other words once the membership of the Watchtower had reached 5,000 (which occurred in 1895Tishri)
Women Men and women baptised into the 2AC in the congregation who aren't sanctified into either the New or the Newer covenants
Boys Water baptised Children, girls or boys (over 5 years old) who are too young to be sanctified (under 20 years old).

NB. The words 'men' 'women' etc. are only mentioned once in each account. But all the parallel accounts make one giant account symbolism. So in fact the words 'men' and 'women' appear twice.

4 However, many of those who had listened to the speech believed, and the number of the men became about 5,000 (Acts 4).

37 And as he was about to be led into the soldiers' quarters, Paul said to the military commander: Am I allowed to say something to you? He said: Can you speak Greek? 
38 Are you not really the Egyptian who before these days stirred up a sedition and led the 4,000 dagger men out into the wilderness? (Acts 21).

In the literal meaning no, in the symbolic meaning yes.

5 Loaves 5 feeding programs of the 5 presidents of FDS1 and/or FDS3
2 Fishes 2 feeding programs of the 2 presidents of FDS2 and/or FDS4 who preside whilst the New Covenant Saints were still around
7 Loaves  ??
Symposiums Individual congregations in FDS2 FDS4, the stewards
Garden rows (groups) Individual congregation in FDS1 FDS3, the slaves
12 baskets of fragments (not said to be surplus) 12 years after FDS1 has fallen of clean but out of date food 67 - 79 CE
12 baskets of fragments (said to be surplus) 12 years after FDS3 falls of unclean food, from 1994Elul to 2006Elul when all false religions are destroyed by the UN. This is the feeding program of the evil salve of Matthew 24 of the general Watchtower members.
7 baskets of surplus fragments  ??
House (Mark 8) Temple of Newer Covenant Saints
Way  (Mark 6) FDS1 was called 'the way'
Groups of 50 and 100 (loaves only) FDS3 feeds for 100 years from 1895Tishri CE to 1994 CE (100 years inclusively) when it falls. FDS1 feeds for 50 years from 29 CE to 79 CE, 12 years after it falls in 67 Tishri CE
Groups of 50 (Loaves and fishes) Luke 100 years from 29Tishri to 128/9, when the second fish ends. Groups of 50 are made 100x from 5,000 men.
Buy food  Food from a third party. FDS1 takes food from FDS2 as it's own
200 Denarii Food from a third party for 200 days. FDS3 takes food from FDS4 as its own, this is probably the 200 cubits of John 21.
Boat Holy Spirit 
Dalmanutha with disciples FDS4
Magadan FDS2
Sent crowds away Jesus rejected that true religion. This occurs for WSS1, WSS2, FDS3.

 

5 Barley loaves 5 watches of FDS3 serving food prepared by Charles Russell and his associates before they became 1NC saints. Barley is harvested before wheat.
2 small fishes 2 watches of FDS4 serving coded food prepared by Charles Russell and his associates before the became 1NC saints. Food such as, Daniel 4, the Gentile Times, and the understanding that Jesus is the angel Michael and was elevated to the status of a God to be worshipped and prayed to after he ransomed Adam. Jesus must have loved this man.
Andrew Andrew (Peter's Brother) Second presence 1NC saints. 
Peter First presence 1NC saints
Philip Unfaithful 1NC, rotten saints
Boy Charles Russell
Lot of grass Water baptised Christians.
Passover The 1NC was about to be celebrated again on 1888Nisan14, the first Passover in the second presence.
Jesus went up Mountain Jesus started forming an administration at the full limit of the appointed times to gather together all things again in the Christ
12 baskets of fragments from loaves 12 years from 1994Tammuz to 2006Elul. When the loaf administration ends at the fall of Babylon.

In the case of FDS3, the Watchtower, the 3rd True Christian Religion, the 5 loaves are the five feeding campaigns under the 5 presidents of FDS3, (Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel). These loaves were broken by Jesus and given to his disciples to give to the crowds. But the baskets of fragments were picked up by the disciples without any involvement by Jesus, and the 5,000 were sent away by Jesus before any food was eaten from the baskets. So the 12 years run from 1994Tammuz30, the disfellowshipping of FDS3 and all the Jehovahs witnesses by Jesus, until 2006Elul (it is not accurate to the month, just to the year it would appear, as in the case of the 100 years inclusive of food of FDS3 from 1895Tishri to 1994Tammuz). They end in 2006Elul because this is the end of the 7 years of the 7 horns of the lamb as though slaughtered of Revelation 5 see [151], which follow after the 7 years of the 7 eyes of said lamb. And the 7 eyes started in 1992Elul, with the arrival of Gordon's first book at the HQ of the Watchtower in Brooklyn. Gordon realised that the 7 years of the eyes ended in 1999Elul, in the very month of 1999Elul. This was his call to get on the white horse with his bow and start conquering. For the first horseman of the Apocalypse is not Jesus, but is the antetypical Joseph. The current bible decoder. This book/website contains some of his arrows which go over the wall of the Watchtower - Genesis 49:22-26.

The two fishes in the case of FDS4, the last true Christian religion are the feeding programs of the two presidents to the 6th and 7th congregations of Revelation 3, Philadelphia and Laodicea. The first 5 presidents of the Watchtower were the angels of the first 5 congregations Revelation 2,3 (Ephesus to Sardis).

Now the food of the Watchtower was loaves, which come from bread which comes from wheat (which is the remnant) which comes from the land which is the administration. But the food of the Lords' Witnesses, the life, is fish, which is a hidden food, which comes from the waters, and the sea, which is not the administration but is those governed by it. Our food comes from the congregation, not from the administration. It is true that the administration serves it up, but they do not produce it.

The UN wipes out all religious organisations from the planet in 2006Elul. The beast kills the Harlot. This is why the lamb loses power in 2006Elul and this is why in Revelation 18 we read:

10 While they stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say: Too bad, too bad, you great city, Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgement has arrived! (Revelation 18).

16 Saying: Too bad, too bad--the great city, clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet, and richly adorned with gold ornament and precious stone and pearl (Revelation 18).

19 And they threw dust upon their heads and cried out, weeping and mourning, and said: Too bad, too bad--the great city, in which all those having boats at sea became rich by reason of her costliness, because in one hour she has been devastated! (Revelation 18).

Too bad, Too bad. A lament two times. Two years, 2006Elul to 2008Elul, the end of Armageddon, see 163.

Table showing the basis for deciding which feeding miracle is which administration

Matthew 14 (5,000) Matthew 15 (4,000) Mark 6 (5,000) Mark 8 (4,000) Luke 9 (5,000) John (5,000)
FDS1/FDS3 who don't make it into FDS2/FDS4

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FDS1/FDS3 who do make it into FDS2/FDS4 WSS two servings Those in FDS1 and FDS2 who are fed by the food made by Jesus himself  during his ministry. (he was not a new covenant saint - he never needed to be sanctified). Food not recorded in the bible. Those in FDS3 and FDS4 who are fed by the food made by Russell himself and his co researchers prior to his sanctification in 1884Tishri. After this date he was a 1NC saint so he was giving out bread.
The hour has passed by. i.e. a new day has started. Crowds sent away, opposite side, bread but no fish 7 loaves, loaves given thanks. Also fishes eaten.

Send crowds away

crowd sent away, opposite side, garden rows of 100 and 50 for the  bread through disciples. Then, divided fishes for all (not said to go to 50 100 groups). all includes people who did not get the loaves.  'House' is the temple of 2NC which only exists in FDS4.

7 loaves WS and few little fishes SS, two servings. Little fishes blessed loves given thanks. 

Sent them away.

Groups of about 50

Crowd not sent away boat not opposite side, disciples gave out bread and fish

12 baskets of fragments are 12 more presidents of FDS2

Barley is harvested before wheat. Russell was sanctified in 1884Tishri, the rest of the 1NC saints were sanctified between 1895Tishri and 1955Tishri.

He gave orders to them to recline all [ones] symposiums, symposiums upon the green grass

They fell up garden rows, garden rows, according to 100 and according to 50 (Mark 6).

Recline them in groups, as if up 50 (Luke 9). 100 years from 29Tishri to 128/9, when the second fish ends.

congregations of 50 strong for 100 years. This was FDS3 1895Tishri to 1994Tammuz, followed by 12 years of fragments to 2006Elul.

Congregations of 100 strong for 50 years. This was FDS1 29 to 67 then 12 inclusive of fragments, that is why fragments were not said to be a surplus. So it runs from 29 to 78/9, So all is symposiums which is FDS2 and FDS4 who get fish, and not said to be all is groups and FDS1 FDS3 who get bread. 

5,000 are water baptised?

100 times from 29Tishri to 129Tishri when second fish ends in first presence. Then 12 baskets of fragments are 12 more heads of FDS2. So that it had 14 in total over its 388 years (28 years each).

Green grass is water baptised guys. Ground is no grass, no water baptised guys in case of 4,000.

200 Denarii of loaves of Mark are 29 to 119 and 1884 to 1994?

200 Denarii of loaves of John 200 days of the Watchtower providing food developed by FDS4, whilst representing that God will only reveal understandings to them. This period is yet to commence.