And one out [ek]
Teacher, I brought my
to you having a speechless
18 and wherever it seizes him it convulses him [1x], and he foams [1x] and grinds/grates [trizw not brugmoj] [literally sqeaks not gnashes] the teeth [28x for 28 human teeth] and dries-up/withers [1x]. And I spoke to your disciples in order that they might expel it, but they were not capable.
19 But the [one] said to them in-response: Oh faithless generation, how long must I continue with you? How long must I put up with you? [the account will answer this question] Bring him to me.
20 So they brought him to him. But having seen him the spirit immediately caused him to convulse [1x], and having fallen upon the earth [1x+1x=2x] he was rolling about, foaming [1x].
21 And he asked his father: For how much time is it [that epileptic fits] as [wV] this have been happening to him? And the [one] said: out of from-early-childhood [1x].
22 and many-times [pollakij][3x] it would throw him both into fire [1x] and into waters [2x] in order to destroy him. But if you can do anything, pity us and help us.
23 But Jesus said to him: The [expression], 'If you can'! [Why], all [things] [are] possible for the faithful [one].
24 Immediately crying out, the father of the little-boy was saying: I have-faith! Help me with faithlessness!
25 But Jesus, having seen that a crowd was running together upon [them], rebuked the spirit, the unclean [one] [does make sense singly, so this is a double designation and LCNC and LINC are divisible by 3], saying to it: The speechless and deaf spirit, I order you, get out of him and enter into him no more.
26 And having cried out and having convulsed repeatedly, it came out [this is said to befall the unclean spirit not the boy]; and he became as if [wsei] dead [1x], so that the many of them were saying that he had died [he was dead. The demon just unpossessed him and left his dead body behind. Jesus then resurrected him back into his body].
27 But Jesus having grasped [kratew] of his hand [5x] [genitive direct object] raised him up [1x], and he rose [1x] (Mark 9).
The Question Answering Principle insists that this account will answer the question that Jesus asks: Oh faithless generation, how long must I continue with you? How long must I put up with you? Obviously the first part of the first presence lasted for less than a generation!
Total count of the experiences of the boy under possession: 1x+1x+28x+1x+1x+2x.1x+1x+3x.(1x+2x)+1x+5x.1x = 50x up to and including being raised up by Jesus. Then he rises (ascends into heaven) at the 51st time after the 50 year presence. These count from 29Tishri10, the baptism of Jesus, the start of the first presence, to 79Tishri14, the end of the first part of the 2nd presence (50 Tishri1 year starts).
Matthew 17:14-21 and Mark 9:14-29 and Luke 9:37-43 are parallel. And Matthew 17:21 is not canonical.
- at the time] of coming toward the
approached him, kneeling down to him and saying:
15 Lord, have-mercy on my son, because he-is-epileptic and is holding badly, for many-times [pollakij] he falls into the fire and many-times [pollakij] into the water;
16 and I have brought him to your disciples, but they could not cure him.
17 Answering Jesus said: Oh faithless and twisted generation, how long must I continue with you? How long must I put up with you? Bring him here to me.
18 And Jesus rebuked it, and the demon came out of him; and the boy [paij] was cured from that hour.
19 Then the disciples came up to Jesus privately [new scenario sense override] and said: Why is it we could not expel it?
20 And the [one] said to them: Because of your little-faith [oligopistia]. For truly I am saying to you, If ever you have faith [pistij] as [wj] a grain of mustard, you will say to this mountain, 'Transfer from here to there,' and it will transfer, and nothing will be impossible for you (Matthew 17).
Pollakij (many times) counts as 3x in the sentence count. So yes, the saints, the born again angelic sons of God, the sons of Jesus by covenant, in 3 true churches fall into the fire (TCC1, TCC2, TCC3), when these churches become false (and the lose their angels if they die in those churches). But then the saints fall into the water baptisms of TCC2, TCC3, TCC4 respectively. These are the movements of the mountain of the true church administration, which mountain is made up of the saints.
For John said:
10 Already the axe is lying at the root of the trees;
every tree, then, that does not produce fine fruit is to be cut down and thrown into the fire.
11 I, for my part, baptize you with water because of your repentance; but the one coming after me is stronger than I am, whose sandals I am not fit to take off. That one will baptize you people with holy spirit and with fire. (Matthew 3 NWT)
Furthermore the boy was cured from that hour, which is a 12th of the day of Jesus continuing with us and putting up with us. But the actions of the epileptic boy count as 3x+3x=6x. So the day is 72x which are years from 89Tishri14 to 160Tishri10.
Jesus did not die and go into adamic death (the 1st death) on 33Nisan14 because in the first place he was non adamic, and in the second place he had an angelic vehicle in his garage. So he was transferred into his angel so as not to see death as Enoch was, one of his previous incarnations. But he did go to the gates of Hades and fall asleep for either 5 or 10 hours without actually dying.
5 Into your hand I entrust my spirit. You have redeemed me, Oh Jehovah the God of truth. (Psalms 31 NWT)
46 And Jesus called with a loud voice and said: Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit. When he had said this, he expired. (Luke 23 NWT)
It would seem that David and Jesus both spent 5 hours in rigor mortis at the gates of Hades without going into the pit of Hades itself after they expired and deceased as humans. And then Jesus died angelically for 10 hours in Gehenna before he was resurrected to be a God.
His angelic death did not end his engagement. The death of a validation sacrifice does not invalidate any salvation covenant it validates one.