'I am not a pillar of the church, but a buttress. I support it from the outside' - Winston Churchill
We start with the famous question that the disciples put to on the mount of Olives:
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Departing now, was on his way from the temple, but his disciples approached to show him the buildings of the temple.
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In response he said to them: Do you not behold all these things? Truly I say to you, By no means will a stone be left here upon a stone and not be thrown down.
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While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying:
Tell us, When will these things be [end of Jewish system], and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things? [end of 's system] (Matthew 24).
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As he was going out of the temple one of his disciples said to him: Teacher,
see! what sort of stones and what sort of buildings!
2 However, said to him: Do you behold these great buildings? By no means will a stone be left here upon a stone and not be thrown down.
3 And as he was sitting on the Mountain of the Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew began to ask him privately:
4 Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign when all these [stones being thrown down] things are destined to come to a conclusion [end of Jewish system]? (Mark 13).
These 2 parallel accounts describe the same event in their literal meanings (which meanings are fairly symbolic). Luke 21 is not a parallel account because it is set in the temple not upon the mount of Olives.
In Matthew 24 and in Mark13 is asked the question by 4 apostles upon the mount of Olives at night. Whereas Luke 21 is set in the temple during the day and is not asked a question but volunteers the prophecy to those speaking about the beautiful stones of the temple (i.e. those close to those stones).
1 And having looked up, He saw the rich ones putting their gifts into the treasury.
2 And He also saw a certain poor widow putting two lepta there.
3 And He said, Truly I say to you, This poor widow put [in] more than all.
4 For all these out of their abundance put into the gifts to God, but she out of her poverty put [in] all the living which she had.
5 And as some were speaking about the temple, that it had been adorned with beautiful stones and gifts, He said,
6 [As to] these things that you see, days will come in which a stone will not be left on a stone, which will not be thrown down.
7 And they asked Him, saying, Teacher, then when will these things be? And what [will be] the sign when these things are about to happen?
37 And [in] the days, He was teaching in the temple. And going out [in] the nights, He lodged in the Mount of Olives. (Luke 21 )
3 And [as] He [was] sitting in the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew questioned Him privately: (Mark 13 )
So in Matthew and in Mark the 4 apostles ask for a sign of a presence (A coded reference to 4 presences or parts of presences). But clearly was present when he was being asked the question. So the apostles are asking for a sign of his future presence (knowing that he is going to be physically absent).
22 It was while they were gathered together in Galilee that said to them: The Son of man is destined to be betrayed into men's hands,
23 and they will kill him, and the third day he will be raised up. Consequently they were very much grieved (Matthew 17).
In fact although he left them for 2 days at his human expiration, we shall discover that he continued to be 'present' for another 42 years after his death until 79Tishri14 when the first part of the fire presence ended. So the apostles were essentially asking: How will we know that you are still around when you yourself are in heaven?
The various signs that gave were certainly fulfilled at the time of the end of the Jewish system, when the temple was burned down and not a stone was left upon a stone. But unbeknown to the disciples at that time, there was to be a second fulfilment of the 'signs of the presence' for the 2nd presence which was to run from 1890Sivan11 to 2020Heshvan14, with various gaps in it. And then there was to be a 3rd fulfilment of the signs of the presence and of the conclusion of the system of things for the 3rd presence which was to run from 2026Elul16 to the absolute end of Adam/Cain on 2033Nisan14/Iyyar14, the end of entry into the first death, the judicial execution of failed Adam/Cain.
The 4 apostles asked a total 4 questions privately. These were:
1. When will the physical temple fall down
2. What is the sign of your presence (first or second)
3. What is the sign of the end of everything (Matthew)
4. What is the sign of the end of the Jewish system (Matthew and Mark)
Matthew asks all 4. Mark asks 1 and 4, Luke asks 1 only. But since these are parallel literal accounts of the same events, all 4 questions were asked of and the answer given by , was in fact all 3 answers of Matthew, Mark and Luke, which together apply to all 4 questions. The sign of ' presence is very very large. It is the entirety of ' answer and it stretches from Matthew 24:4 - Matthew 25:46 and from Mark 13:5 - Mark 13:37 and from Luke 21:8-38!! It was a long answer. Here is the beginning of his answer in Matthew...
4 And in answer said to them:
Look out that nobody misleads you;
5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many.
6 you are going to hear of wars and reports of wars;
see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom [WW1 and WW2 in the second presence. WW3 in the 3rd presence], and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.
8 All these things are a prelude of pangs of distress.
9 Then people will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name [due to the authority from that his people have. The s fulfilled this in WW2, refusing to bow to the authority of the state and make war, and so ending up in prisons or in concentration camps. Whereas the first presence true Christians were fed to the lions].
10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another.
11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many;
12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.
13 But he that has endured to the end [of his testing or of his life] is the one that will be saved.
14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
15 Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, let the reader use discernment,
16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains (Matthew 24).
From this answer we can see that knocking down of the temple at Jerusalem, in fact by the Roman general Titus in 70 AD, which was the end of the Jewish system, was a sign of the presence and therefore occurred during a presence. Furthermore the sign of the presence is also a sign of the conclusion of the system of things. So the end of the world occurs during a presence (the 3rd presence).
But if there was one continuous presence all the way from ' death until the end of the world, then since he would never be absent he would not need to give us a sign for his presence. So it is apparent that the first presence ended, and was followed by a period of absence before a second presence began. Then actually the 2nd presence ended and was followed by a further absence and then the 3rd presence begins.
So the end of the Jewish system of things, the destruction of the physical temple in Jerusalem by Titus in 70 CE lies in the first presence, and the end of the world, caused by corrupt politicians, lies in the 3rd presence.
Since a sign is needed to detect ' presence, his presence cannot be plainly visible.
says to his disciples: Do you not behold these things? referring to the buildings of the temple.
Now of course the disciples, sitting upon the mount of olives could see the temple buildings, in fact they pointed these buildings out to him. So in the literal meaning, yes they could see them. But in the greater meaning the answer is no. We have seen this before in the case of Nicodemus' second question to :
4 Nicodemus said to him: How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter into the womb of his mother a second time and be born, can he? (John 3).
Literally the answer is no, one cannot enter the womb of one's genetic mother a second time. But in the greater meaning, the answer is, yes. That is precisely how one is born again - see I12. It is such a great question. Nicodemus's words were inspired. Now in the case of ' question to the disciples: Do you not behold these things? We have the same situation. Literally, yes, they could see the building. Symbolically, no, they could not see the greater building. So this is a good time to restate what we call the Binary Question Principle of the true bible code...
Any unanswered question asked in the scriptures with two possible answers (normally yes and no), has the answer in one word symbolic thread, being the opposite of the answer in the literal meaning or straight symbolic meaning ( the event symbolism).
In other words whichever answer is true in the literal/event symbolic meaning, the alternative answer must be true in the greater meaning (the word symbolic meaning). In other words both answers are true in some meaning. The principle follows from the Power Principle of the code which basically states that every word of scripture has power. For more see code.html#c13
The temple buildings in the greater meaning are invisible physically just like ' presences. Now the use of the plural word 'buildings', means that there are several true Christian religions, in the temple with the 4 cornerstones, for the scripture does not say 'building' of the temple. But both the building, the true religion, and the stones of the (buildings of) the temple are physically invisible in the greater meaning because the building is made out of living stones, sanctified men and women. These true Christians are invisible in that they do not look like temple stones and do not look any different to any other human, and some of them do not behave any differently either.
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Certainly, therefore, you are no longer strangers and alien residents, but you are fellow citizens of the holy ones and are members of the household of God,
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and you have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ himself is the foundation cornerstone.
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In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple in [the] Lord.
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In union with him you, too, are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit (Ephesians 2 - adapted from Greek).
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In answer said to them: Break down this temple, and in 3 days I will raise it up.
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Therefore the Jews said: This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?
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But he was talking about the temple of his body.
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When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples called to mind that he used to say this; and they believed the Scripture and the saying that said (John 2).
19 What! Do you not know that the body of you people is temple of the holy spirit within you, which you have from God? (1 Corinthians 6).
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Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen,
precious, with God.
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You yourselves also as living stones are being built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Christ.
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For it is contained in Scripture: Look! I am laying in a stone, chosen, a foundation cornerstone, precious; and no one exercising faith in it will by any means come to disappointment (1 Peter 2).
One or more of the buildings of this grand temple of all Christianity must contain the living stones of ' very body, the new covenant saints. To see why the New Covenant saints are his body, please consider the following scriptures...
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We are members of his body (Ephesians 5).
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He is the head of the body, the congregation (Colossians 1).
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Because a husband is head of his wife, as the Christ also is head of the congregation, he being a saviour of [this] body (Ephesians 5).
The Marriage here is the new covenant. The New covenant saints collectively are ' bride, engaged to him through this covenant. Hence we read in Revelation:
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Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself.
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Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean,
fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones (Revelation 19).
is the lamb here:
29 The next day he beheld coming toward him, and he said: See, the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world! (John 1).
This marriage of the lamb takes place in the ark during the (actually there are 7 marriages on 2008Nisan22, 2015Iyyar20, 2019Tishri17, 2019Heshvan22, 2019Chislev20, 2019Tebbeth18, 2020Tammuz19 - all of these are in years where Nisan14 is the weekly Sabbath So they are isocalendric years. This is covered in Revelation 19 - see U151. But even whilst the new covenant saints are merely his fiancé, having entered into the new covenant, they are still regarded as flesh, his body, under Law:
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In case there happened to be a virgin girl engaged to a man, and a man actually found her in the city and lay down with her,
24 You must also bring them both out to the gate of that city and pelt them with stones, and they must die, the girl for the reason that she did not scream in the city, and the man for the reason that he humiliated the wife of his fellowman. So you must clear away what is evil from your midst (Deuteronomy 22).
18 But the birth of Christ was in this way. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united.
19 However, Joseph her husband, because he was righteous and did not want to make her a public spectacle, intended to divorce her secretly (Matthew 1).
So ’ fiancé is treated in all respects as his wife, because in those days there was no question of either a man or a woman breaking their agreement with each other to get married (things have changed a bit since then).
OK so the New covenant saints are ' fiance, and have the same marital status as wife, which is one flesh with her husband according to Adam and to ...
24 That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh (Genesis 2).
6 So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put asunder (Matthew 19).
So his fiance is one in flesh with . So their bodies are his body. So his flesh, his body is here, when they are here. So his body, his wife, his fiance, his flesh are the living stones of one or more of the buildings of the spiritual temple. And so if they are present then is present and if they are not and he is not physically down here himself, then he is absent.
So the three presences are split by an absence of which is an absence of his flesh, which is an absence of his wife-to-be, his fiance, which is an absence of saints with a valid water baptism (since ' flesh must be clean). But since these are the spirit temple, we can see clearly that their first temple in the first presence is knocked down, so that no living stone rests upon no living stone and then replaced by a second temple in the second presence.
Definition: is present if his flesh is present upon the earth. His flesh can be a body which the angel possesses or can be his fiance, a saint with a valid water baptism, so that he or she is clean in the flesh. cannot be one with unclean flesh.
Two presences means two temples of saints, which means two true religions. We have already seen this is the case of gap in procreation of the children of , who stands for the in the greater meaning of Genesis29/30 - see Intro32. We can also see it in the case of the temple curtain that describes as representing ' flesh, which was rent in two from top to bottom at ' death.
51 And, look! the curtain of the sanctuary [' flesh] was rent in two, from top to bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rock-masses [ was the rock masses] were split (Matthew 27).
19 Therefore, brothers, since we have boldness for the way of entry into the holy place by the blood of ,
20 which he inaugurated for us as a new and living way through the curtain, that is, his flesh (Hebrews 10).
This would mean that our entrance to the , through this curtain cannot occur until all the saints are dead, since they represent flesh and flesh is the temple curtain, and the temple curtain prevented everyone from entering the most holy, which pictures the in heaven. But the curtain was rent in two from top to bottom. So the first presence, the absence, and the second presence together span the whole time period from to the . but then there is actually a 3rd presence in the before the end of the world.
51 And, look! the curtain of the sanctuary was rent in 2, from top to bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rock-masses were split. (Matthew 27 )
Whilst was alive, his body, his flesh, was in one piece, but after he died his body became that of his wife, the saints, and they are split in two into the two presences of the Christ. The gap in time between the buildings (plural) of the spiritual temple, the gap between the presences, is represented by the two halves of the curtain, his flesh, his wife, his body by covenant. It is also prefigured by the temporal gap in time between the two physical stone temples of the Jews, Solomon's temple and Zerubbabel's temple. Don't forget that the Jews were not under the law of Moses whilst in exile in Babylon, because it is impossible to be under law without a functioning temple!! It was Ezra who took them back under law, he was a second Moses if you like - see Nehemiah 8-10.
The importance of this is that a lot of people over the last 2,000 years who have claimed to be new covenant saints, by their partaking of the bread and the wine or the , have been badly mislead. If they had listened to they would have known that he was going to be absent for quite some time, because he said:
11 You will always have the poor with you but you will not always have me (Matthew 26 adapted from Greek).
This response was made to the disciples indignation at a woman pouring expensive oil on ' head. The woman is the new covenant, the expensive oil is the baptism in holy spirit, the head is the collection of new covenant saints who she was anointing to be the Kings of the in heaven. So the response, in the symbolic meaning, means you will not always have the new covenant saints. It means, I will not always be present. In the literal meaning of course died.
came to the physical and true temple in his first century ministry to chuck out the bad guys:
1 And suddenly there will come to his temple the Lord, whom you people are seeking, and the messenger of the covenant in whom you are delighting. Look! He will certainly come, of armies has said (Malachi 3).
15 So, after making a whip of ropes, he drove all those with the sheep and cattle out of the temple, and he poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables (John 2).
In the literal meaning of John 2:15, came to the physical temple of the Jews, and he was physically present within it, and he made an inspection, and they failed that inspection. In the greater meaning comes to the spiritual temple of the congregation of first new covenant saints, the living stones of that temple. Yet these very stones define his presence. So basically he comes to see his wife. Most husbands perform this function slightly more frequently than he does. But it is a perfectly normal thing to do. This is quite a conundrum if not fully understood. It seems ridiculous that can come during his presence! But he can do this, coming to inspect the temple of the new covenant saints. His coming is a personal appearance by him. His presence is a representative appearance by his wife.
The bible often, but not always, distinguishes between his presence and his comings by using the terms day and hour. The coming occurs at an hour and the presence defines a day. There is no coming to start a presence, the presence starts through the existence of two new covenant saints...
20 For where there are 2 or 3 gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst. (Matthew 18 )
But this is not regarded as a coming because you have to get the team together before you play the first match. Hence we read referring to the start of the presence of the Son of man:
37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be...
But as regards a coming during the presence of the Christ:
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But know one thing, that if the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into.
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On this account you too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that you do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming (Matthew 24).
Obviously just as an hour is a part of a day so a coming can be a part of a presence.
In fact in the greater fulfilment when comes during his presence to inspect the temple of his wife, he not only throws out the bad guys but he knocks down the whole temple! We know that the spiritual temple of the new covenant saints is destroyed, actually by , whilst they are still around, i.e. during his presence, because as we have read above:
2 By no means will a stone be left here upon a stone and not be thrown down (Matthew 24).
This is a scripture which not only applies to the physical stones in the literal meaning, but also applies to the living stones, the new covenant saints in the symbolic meaning.
Look! The broken down temple in Jerusalem today is a prophecy that the spiritual temple of the New covenant saints will likewise be destroyed, once in each presence! When a spiritual temple is knocked down, that church becomes a false religion. The wicked living stones who stay in that false religion then die, being bound into their bundle of weeds by their love of their status in that church. But the good living stones, who seek not the glory of man but the glory of God, the wheat, then move to the next true religion and form the next temple. These ones continue to live. For a stone can be used in more than one building.
4 These are the ones that did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins. These are the ones that keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes. These were bought from among mankind as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb, (Revelation 14 )
9 I am the door; whoever enters through me will be saved, and he will go in and out and find pasturage (John 10)
As regards the length of each presence we have:
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For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
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For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark;
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and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be (Matthew 24).
The days of Noah where people took no note and then got washed away were 120 years:
3 After that said: My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh/they have erred. Accordingly his days shall amount to 120 years. (Genesis 6).
Also after Moses the maximum lifespan for men was 120 years. Moses lived for exactly 120 years see section I15. Moses was born on 1594Adar1 BC and he died at the order of on 1474Adar1 and was mourned for 30 days to 1473Nisan1 - see U101.
2 and said to them: 120 years old I am today. I shall no more be allowed to go out and come in, as has said to me, You will not cross this Jordan (Deuteronomy 31).
So since is present through his fiancé, then this ‘woman’ should not live for more than 120 years as a human in each presence. This maximum lifespan is not just a deduction of ours from the scriptures. Tit is also an observation of the Jewish Historian Josephus, the contemporary of .
For the life of man was already by degrees diminished, and became shorter than before, till the birth of Moses, after whom the term of human life was 120 years...(Antiquities of the Jews Chapter 6 paragraph 5)
7 Exercise patience, therefore, brothers, until the presence of the Lord. Look!
The farmer keeps waiting for the precious fruit of the earth, exercising patience over it until he gets the early rain and the late rain.
8 You too exercise patience; make your hearts firm, because the presence of the Lord has drawn close (James 5).
This is a very important scripture to understand. James said this in the first century whilst saints were around. Why would he ask people who defined the presence of the Christ to wait until the presence of the Lord?
The presence of the Lord is when the 'precious fruit of the earth' is harvested. Christian fruit gets both the early rain and the late rain. These rains are water baptisms into two true religions in a presence. The gap between the early rain and the late rain is a gap in the presence of the Christ. During this gap the bride of Christ has no water baptism and is therefore unclean in the flesh and so is temporarily disconnected from holy body and therefore not his flesh.
The saints on earth are present as ' fiance, his flesh, only if that flesh is clean, i.e. water baptised. cannot be united with unclean flesh. The water baptism gives a Christian a clean flesh, in the sense that it washes away sins of the past and entitles him to a perfect non ageing fleshly body in the - see I33.
So is not present through the saints on earth if they have lost their water baptism. The Roman Catholic church lost its water baptism on 79Tishri14 - see U152. That ended the first part of the first presence. Then there was a 10 year gap before the presence restarted on 89Tishri14. For said to Peter...
18 Most truly I say to you, When you were younger, you used to gird yourself and walk about where you wanted. But when you grow old you will stretch out your hands and another [man] will gird you and bear you where you do not wish.
19 This he said to signify by what sort of death he would glorify God. So, when he had said this, he said to him: Continue following me.
(John 21 )
Stretching out hands is a witness to 10x precisely. That is the period of time that Peter is somewhere he does not want to be having been taken there by another. That somewhere is outside of ' body. It is the gap in the first presence. The gap is precisely 10 years long. For more see U152.
During this gap James asked the brothers to exercise patience. And John came to be in the Lord's day (the day of his presence) only 'in spirit', not by being actually in it..
10 I came to be in [the] on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, (Revelation 1 )
John wrote Revelation in the gap between the two parts of the first presence
Definition: is present if there is a saint on earth with a valid water baptism.
The Watchtower lost its water baptism on 2001Chislev14, 33/34 days after the awful letter to the Bethels of 2001Heshvan10/11, the abomination causing desolation, was placed. This letter showed no repentance for their riding the beast of the UN when they became a UN NGO (which is how a church rides the beast), they showed no repentance for a sin that the book of Revelation calls harlotry. They showed no repentance for putting the throne of the UN in to the temple of . This ended the first part of the 2nd presence which ran from 1890Sivan11, when the 1st Watchtower was sanctified joining the Russell; - see U42 - to 2001Chislev14.
Then Laodicea, an internal sect of the s which stole the water baptism and the crown of Elijah4, carried the second part of the second presence from 2006Sivan14 (4½ times of Daniel12 after 2001Chislev14, when the Watchtower lost its water baptism) to 2013Adar10, when Laodicea lost its water baptism. Then 5½ years of Daniel12 later on 2019Elul10, the 3rd part of the 2nd presence begins. And 2,000 pigs of Mark5 later, on 2019Elul30, the first flying pig jumps off the overhang of the false Watchtower into the sea of the world, in order drown in the waters of the and join Laodicea on 2019Tishri10, Atonement day, entry day for the 1st Watchtower Passover of the Bethels on 2019Tishri14.
430 years in Egypt a month for a day runs from 2005Sivan14, the fall of the Watchtower as a true church (when it became Egypt) to 2019Tishri14, the 1st Watchtower Passover. So the early 1st Watchtower Passover is 2019Elul14 and entry day is 2019Elul10 the start of the baptism for reappointed Laodicea, the restart of the 2nd presence.
147The 100 year Asher Proselyte continuation call into the into ran from 1890Sivan11 ( Pentecost) to 1990Sivan11 - see U42 - see U192. So s were available to be baptised from 1890Sivan11. But in order for the entire 2nd presence to be 120 years precisely, the 2nd one must have been baptised on 1890Sivan14. One (Russell) and one does not define a presence because 2 or 3 must be gathered together in his name (in the same name) in order for to be in our midst. 2 or 3 in one covenant in order for to be in our midst through the flesh of that wife.
So the whole second presence looks like this:
1890Sivan14 to 2001Chislev14 = 111 years 6 months from the sanctification of 2nd Watchtower (joining Russell who was a from 1871Heshvan21) to the loss of the . The 1st sanctification was 1890Sivan11.
2006Sivan14 to 2012Sivan14 = 6 years from the baptism of the s to the death of adamic and Laodiceans
2012Sivan14 to 2013Adar10 = 1 year 8 months 26 days from the death of adamic true church members but not the fall of either true church, to the end of the stolen for Laodicea
2019Elul10 to 2019Shebat10 = 5 months
2020Tammuz10-2020Heshvan14 = 4 months 4 days
Total: 111+6+1 years +6+8+5+4 months 26+4 days = 120 years.147
2012Sivan15 was the Venusian transit day. Venus was the Roman goddess of love. The transit depicts the transition from Adam to of all those in the true churches of the s and Laodicea that occurred from 2012Sivan14-16, our
Jubilee release in the 1st Jubilee of the post lease Kingdom. It is a manifestation of the love God has for Adam, whom he will restore to everything he lost and more thanks to the sacrifices of the Christ.
Frank Buckles, the last US WW1 veteran, died on 2010Adar17. Claude Choules, the last WW1 combat veteran died on 2011Iyyar1/2 (2011May5). Florence Beatrice Green, the last WW1 service veteran died on 2011Shebat6/7 (2012February4). Violet Brown was old enough to have served and survived past the end of the 2nd presence. Nabi Tajima was the last one old enough to have served in WW1 (she did not so serve). She was 117 years and 260 days old on 2018April21, when she died at 8 pm on 2018Iyyar5 - having been born on 1900August4.
1871Heshvan21, the Pentecost, was the day when Charles Russell was water baptized from heaven as Elijah3 and spirit baptized from heaven into the . But 1890Sivan11 was the day when the 2nd / joined him in his true church. So the whole presence is 120 years long to the very day of the , which is the calendar the s use.
So the Laodicean reserves were baptized into Laodicea to start the second part of the second presence on 2006Sivan14. And the 2nd presence began on 1890Sivan14, whereas began the first presence on 29Tishri10, atonement day (when no one else could have been baptized since it was an unbreakable Sabbath).
1 Come, you people, and do let us return to , for he himself has torn in pieces but he will heal us. He kept striking, but he will bind us up.
2 He will make us alive after 2 days. On the 3rd day he will make us get up, and we shall live before him.
3 And we will know, we will pursue to know . Like dawn, his going forth is firmly established. And he will come in like a pouring rain to us; like a spring rain that
saturates [the] earth. (Hosea 6 )
For the details of the first presence - see U33.
10 By inspiration I came to be in the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet, (Revelation 1 )
10 I was in the on the Lord's-day, and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying, (Revelation 1 YLT)
10 I came to be in spirit in the pertaining to Lord day, and I heard behind of me voice great as of trumpet (Revelation 1 )
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evgeno,mhn evn pneu,mati evn th/| kuriakh/| h`me,ra| kai. h;kousa ovpi,sw mou fwnh.n mega,lhn w`j sa,lpiggoj (Revelation 1 WHO)
Think about what this means. It means that John was not himself in the Lord's day when he saw the things written in Revelation. That means was not present when Revelation was written. That means there was no water baptism enabling saints to have the clean flesh of the Christ at the time Revelation was penned. That means the Roman Catholic church lost its water baptism before John wrote Revelation.
