'Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly' - Robert F. Kennedy
3 [John's disciples buried John and then came and reported that John had been beheaded to Jesus] At hearing this Jesus withdrew from there [his home territory, Capernaum] in a boat into a lonely place for isolation [to the opposite side of the harp shaped 3 sided lake of Chinnereth - meaning Harp, towards Tiberias as in Mark - see verses 22, 32]; but the crowds,
getting to hear of it, followed him on foot from the cities.
14 Now when he came forth he saw a great crowd; and he felt pity for them, and he cured their sick ones.
15 But when evening fell his disciples came to him and said: The place is lonely and the hour is already far advanced;
send the crowds away, that they may go into the villages and buy themselves things to eat.
16 However, Jesus said to them: They do not have to leave: You give them something to eat.
17 They said to him: We have nothing here but 5 loaves and 2 fishes.
18 He said: Bring them here to me.
19 Next he commanded the crowds to recline on the grass and took the 5 loaves and 2 fishes, and, looking up to heaven, he said a blessing and, after breaking the loaves, he distributed them to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds.
20 So all ate and were satisfied, and they took up the surplus of fragments, 12 baskets full.
21 Yet those eating were about 5,000 men [andreV],
besides women and young children.
22 Then, without delay, he compelled his disciples to board the boat and go ahead of him to the other side [Tiberias as in Mark], while he sent the crowds away (Matthew 14).
32 And they got across and came to land in Gennesaret (Matthew 14).
32
[Apostles reported what they had done after having been given authority over unclean spirits]
So off they went in the boat [from Capernaum - see Mark 6:1] for a lonely place to themselves [South towards Tiberias on the same side of the lake - see verse 45].
33 But people saw them going and many got to know it, and from all the cities they ran there together on foot and got ahead of them.
34 Well, on getting out, he saw a great crowd, but he was moved with pity for them, because they were as sheep without a shepherd. And he started to teach them many things.
35 By now the hour had grown late, and his disciples came up to him and began to say: The place is isolated, and the hour is already late [i.e. evening time].
36 Send them away, that they may go off into the countryside and villages round about and buy themselves something to eat.
37 In reply he said to them: You give them something to eat. At this they said to him: Shall we go off and buy loaves of 200 denarii and give [them] to the people to eat
38 He said to them: How many loaves have you? Go see! After ascertaining it, they said: 5, besides 2 fishes.
39 And he instructed all the people to recline by companies on the green grass.
40 And they laid themselves down in groups of 100 and of 50.
41 Taking now the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes he looked up to heaven and said a blessing, and broke the loaves up and began giving them to the disciples, that these might place them before the people; and he divided up the 2 fishes for all.
42 So they all ate and were satisfied;
43 and they took up fragments, 12 baskets full, aside from the fishes.
44 Furthermore, those who ate the loaves were 5,000 men [andreV].
45 And, without delay, he compelled his disciples to board the boat and go on ahead to the opposite shore toward Bethsaida, while he himself dismissed the crowd (Mark 6).
53 And when they got across to land, they came into Gennesaret and anchored ship nearby (Mark 6).
10
[John's disciples are said to bury John but not said to report to Jesus. However the Apostles reported what they had done after having been given authority over demons and sickness] With that he took them along and withdrew to privacy into a city called Bethsaida.
11 But the crowds, getting to know it,
followed him. And he received them kindly and began to speak to them about the kingdom of God, and he healed those needing a cure.
12 Then the day started to decline [so evening had not yet fallen]. The 12 now came up and said to him: Dismiss the crowd, that they may go into the villages and countryside round about and procure lodging and find provisions,
because out here we are in a lonely place [Jesus slept in Bethsaida but went out into the country for solitude in the day].
13 But he said to them: You give them something to eat. They said: We have nothing more than 5 loaves and 2 fishes,
unless perhaps we ourselves go and buy foodstuffs for all these people.
14 They were, in fact, about 5,000 men [andreV].
But he said to his disciples: Have them recline as at meals, in groups of about 50
each.
15 And they did so and had them all
recline.
16 Then taking the 5 loaves and the 2 fishes, he looked up to heaven, blessed them and broke them up and began to give them to the disciples to set before the crowd.
17 So they all ate and were satisfied, and the surplus that they had was taken up, 12 baskets of fragments (Luke 9).
1
[Jesus witness in Jerusalem, meal before the evening]
After these things Jesus set off across the sea of the Galilee, [across from]
the Tiberias [John 6:23, but the boats out of Tiberias came near the place where they ate the blessed bread, then they went to Capernaum. So this place was probably Bethsaida as in Luke].
2 But a great crowd kept following him,
because they were beholding the signs he was performing upon those who were ill.
3 So Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he was sitting with his disciples.
4 Now the Passover, the festival of the Jews, was near.
5 When, therefore, Jesus raised his eyes and observed that a great crowd was coming to him, he said to Philip: Where shall we buy loaves for these to eat?
6 However, he was saying this to test him,
for he himself knew what he was about to do.
7 Philip answered him: loaves of 200 denarii are not enough for them, so that each one may get a little
8 One out of his disciples, Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter,
said to him:
9 Here is a little boy that has 5 barley loaves [Barley is first fruits, loaves are offered at Pentecost]
and 2 small fishes/eatables []. But what are these among so many?
[]
10 Jesus said: Have the men [anqrwpoV]
recline as at meal. Now there was a lot of grass in the place [not English lawn grass but Israeli long grass - reeds - rulers]. Therefore the men [andreV]
reclined,
about 5,000 in number.
11 So Jesus took the loaves and, after giving thanks, he distributed them to those reclining, likewise also as much of the small fishes as they wanted.
12 But when they had their fill
he said to his disciples: Gather together the fragments that remain over, so that nothing is wasted.
13 Therefore they gathered them together,
and they filled 12 baskets with fragments from the 5 loaves,
the barley [ones] which were left over by those who had eaten (John 6).
[16 When evening fell, his disciples went down to the sea, and, boarding a boat, they set out across the sea for Capernaum [the opposite side to Bethsaida - the Jordan is the divide] (John 6)
22 The next day the crowd that was standing on the other side of the sea [from Capernaum, i.e. at Bethsaida]
saw that there was no boat there except a little one, and that Jesus had not entered into the boat with his disciples but that only his disciples had left;
23 but boats from Tiberias arrived near the place where they ate the bread after the Lord had given thanks.
24 Therefore when the crowd [who had eaten] saw that neither Jesus was there nor his disciples, they boarded the little boats [that had come from Tiberias]
and came to Capernaum to look for Jesus (John 6).
In Luke 9 and John 6 the crowds are not said to be dismissed.
In Luke 9 the baskets of fragments left are not said to be full.
Matthew and Mark: Opposite side of the sea to Bethsaida, hour late/evening fell, groups of 100 and 50, crowd arrived before the 200 denarii comment in Mark.
Luke and John: Bethsaida (opposite side to Tiberias), day starting to decline (just after midday), all in groups of 50. Crowd arrived after the 200 denarii comment in John.
Matthew and Mark: 5,000 men ate.
Luke and John: 5,000 men reclined.
Matthew and Mark: Have the people/crowds recline on the grass
Luke and John: Have them/the men recline as at a meal
So Mark is parallel to Mathew and John is parallel to Luke. See John for the noun count.
The Watchtower was appointed/installed as priests to feed non reserve 1NC saints on 1901Tishri2/Heshvan21 (2NC first fruits/Pentecost). FDS3 was appointed/installed to rule over all of Jesus' belongings (the saints who were only non reserve 1NC saints at that time) on 1905Nisan17/Sivan6 (1NC first fruits/Pentecost). FDS3 was never appointed over 2NC saints. It lost its appointment over saints at late tablet shattering day on 1998Tishri27, making way for FDS4 to be appointed/installed over the 1NCs on 1998Heshvan2/Chislev21 (2nd after FDS3).
On 1998Tishri27, on 2nd late tablet shattering day - see U200, they fell in authority over all the saints and became the evil slave of Matthew24. This is because they denied the Christ 3x in this night, on the Passover nights of 1994Nisan14/1995Nisan14/1996Nisan14/1997Nisan14/1998Nisan14 by refusing to celebrate the one festival that they had to get right correctly after having received instruction on how to do it from Elijah4 by letter of 1994Nisan3 and 1995Nisan10. They did not have enough time to change in 1995 after Gordon warned them that God would no longer forgive. So they were held accountable only from 1996Nisan14 to 1998Nisan14 and Gordon was appointed/installed to feed the 1NC reserves on 1998Heshvan2/Chislev21 as a direct result. Watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees
9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the 5 loaves in the case of the 5,000 and how many baskets you took up?
10 Or the 7 loaves in the case of the 4,000 and how many provision baskets you took up?
11 How is it you do not discern that I did not talk to you about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
(Matthew 16 NWT)
18 'Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?' And do you not remember,
19 when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: 12.
20 When I broke the 7 for the 4,000 [men], how many provision baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: 7.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning? (Mark 8 NWT)
So the NUMBER of provision baskets full of fragments has a greater MEANING that we have to GET!!!
HERE IS THE MEANING...
18 Then Joseph answered and said: This is its interpretation: The 3 baskets are 3 days. (Genesis 40 NWT)
So we take 12 baskets as being 12 units of time. Sacred years actually.
This is a numerical symbolism. The bible is a history book with no dates.
But it does have with a load of seemingly irrelevant numbers of people and things scattered throughout the book.
Jesus is telling us to consider these numbers
Joseph is telling us that they are the dates.
Mark6 and Matthew14 are parallel and the word andreV for males appears twice so has a greater meaning of saints, whereas women and children appear once so mean women and children. So the greater meaning refers to 5,000 male 1NC saints in both Matthew and Mark (since they are a greater male which is also a male).
Fish (6), Loaves (8), Males (2), Grass (2). So these nouns in particular, since they appear an even number of times take two meanings in total, and so have a greater meaning in the word symbolic thread which is different to the literal meaning. Nouns which appear an odd number of times are invariant in the symbolism.
In Mark 6:30-45 and Matthew 14:13-22, which are parallel accounts because in both accounts Jesus leaves Capernaum for a lonely place on the Capernaum side of the lake towards Tiberias, and then after the feeding the disciples head for Bethsaida on the other side of the lake. This is not the case with John 6 or Luke 9, which are parallel accounts set in Bethsaida and after feeding 5,000 other men, Jesus set sail for Capernaum.
THE FEEDING OF THE SAINTS OF MATTHEW14 - Parallel to Mark6 - (by Laodicea)
13
At hearing this Jesus withdrew from there [Capernaum]
in boat into a lonely place
on his own. But the crowds,
having heard, followed him on-foot [adverb]
from the cities.
14
So when he got out he saw a great
crowd. And he felt-tender-affection for them, and he cured their sick [ones].
15
But [at the time] of
late/evening
[oyiaj]
having become
[]
his
disciples
came to him saying: The
place
is lonely and the
hour
has already passed by; send off the
crowds,
in order that having gone off into the
villages
they might buy themselves
foods [].
16
However,
Jesus
said to them: They do not have to leave: You give them [something]
to eat
[form a new church and feed them].
17
They said to him: We do not have [anything] here but 5
loaves
and 2
fishes
[icquaj]
[].
18
He said: Bring them here to me
[Feed my fiance].
19
And having commanded the
crowds
to recline on the
grass
[Could be green. Could be yellow],
he took the 5
loaves
and the 2
fishes
[icquaj], and, looking up into
heaven, he blessed [them] and, having broken [them] he gave the
loaves
to the
disciples,
and the
disciples
[gave them] to the
crowds.
20
So all ate and were satisfied, and they took/lifted up the surplus of the fragments [], 12
baskets
full
[12x. They lifted up the surplus of LW food and ate our fragments for 12 years of spying from 2003Shebat21 to 2015Shebat21,
the entire length of the LW spying based feeding program of Laodicea. the light of Laodicea went out on 2016Nisan1, the start of their 40 month wilderness penalty after they failed their 40 day spying test of Numbers13 to see if they could make their own light.]
21
Yet the [ones] eating were males about [wsei]
5,000 [male 1NC reserves], apart from women
[female 1NC reserves]
and little-children
[paidiwn]
[2NC saints in Laodicea]
22
And immediately, he compelled the
disciples
to step aboard the
boat
and go ahead of him to the other-side [peran]
[Then Laodicea joins Zoar before Jesus in the form of the descended 3rd Holy Spirit joins us], while he sent off the
crowds
[ended Laodicea as a true church on 2017Elul10 and again on 2019Adar16]
(Matthew 14).
5 Loaves are 5 Presidents of Laodicea?
2 Fishes are reappointed Laodicea and non adamic Sodom, living in the sea of fallen Laodicea.
12 baskets full of fragments left over by the LWs is the entire feeding program of Laodicea from 2003Shebat21 (their installation to feed the 1NCs) to 2015Shebat21, the start of the 40 day spying test, after which they gave up on LW food..
THE FEEDING OF THE 1NCs IN ALL 4 TRUE CHURCHES OF MARK6
30
And the
apostles
gathered together before
Jesus
and reported to him all [things]
as many as they had done and as many as they had taught.
31
And he said to them: Come, you yourselves, privately into a desolate/lonely
place
and rest up a little. For the [ones] coming and the [ones] going were many, and they did not have-an-opportunity to eat.
32
So they went off in the
boat
[from Capernaum]
into a lonely
place
for themselves.
33
But many saw them going and got to know it, and they ran there together on-foot from all the
cities
and got ahead of them.
34
Well, on getting out, he saw a great
crowd, but he felt-tender-affection for them,
because they were as [wj]
sheep
without a
shepherd. And he started to teach them many [things].
35
And [at the time] of the
hour
already having come to be much, his
disciples
came up to him and said: The
place
is lonely, and the
hour
is already much.
36
Send them away
[2x], in order that having gone off into the
fields
and
villages
in a
circle [kuklw]
[4x precisely. These are the 4 Prophetic Times, 1440 years, of the Lawless Times of Nehemiah 6:4 between the fall of TCC2 on 465Sivan6 and the installation of FDS3 on 1905Sivan6]
they might buy themselves what they might eat [Get their own food from false religion]
37
Answering he said to them: Ye give to them to eat. At this they said to him: Having gone off
[1x, become a false church, left Jesus on 2017Elul10 for Laodicea]
shall we buy
loaves
[implied ek] [out] of 200
denarii
and give to them to eat? [200x from 2019Ab21 (the reappointment of Laodicea over the 1NCs to 2019Adar11, the start of Reverted Laodicea. An unfulfilled Hypothetical. So it must be fulfilled in the greater meaning]
38
He said to them: How many
loaves
have you? Go see! After ascertaining it, they said: 5, and 2
fishes
[icquaj].
39
And he ordered them to make recline all, symposiums,
symposiums, on the greenish/yellow [clwroj]
grass [watered/dry grass - so with/without a water baptism].
40
And they reclined garden plot [prasia]
garden plot
[prasia] [literally: bed of leeks, a bed of leeks],
by 100, and by 50 [So there are at least 4 true churches with feeding campaigns for water baptised 1NCs of length 50 or 100 units]. (Mark 6 ED)
The Greek word for green is prasinoj which means leek-green. Liddell and Scott has...
L35576
prasia,
prasia
pra±sia,,
Ionic Greek. &ih,,
h`,
(pra,son)
properly a bed of leeks: generally, a garden-plot, Homer's Odyssey.:-metaphorically., prasiai.
prasiai, in companies or groups, New Testament.
L35578
pra,sinoj
prasinoj
pra,sinoj(
&on;
leek-green, light green***
L35581
pra,son
prason
PRA´SON Îa±Ð(
to,,
a leek, Latin: porrum,
Aristotle.
L46332
clwro,j
clwroj
clwro,j,
poët. cloero,j,
a,( o,n,
(clo,h)
greenish-yellow (like young grass or leaves), pale-green,
light-green, green, grassy, Homer's Odyssey., Sophocles., Euripides.; si,tou e;ti clwrou/ o;ntoj Thucydides.
2. yellow, of honey, Homer; avmfi.
clwra.n ya,maqon on the yellow sand, Sophocles.
II. generally, pale, pallid, bleached, clwro.j u`pai. dei,ouj Il.;-then, as an epithet of fear, clwro.n de,oj Homer:-yellow, pallid, of persons affected by the plague,
Thucydides.
So the leek green would be with a water baptism - which they sat down with in groups of 50 and 100. But Jesus instructs them to continue reclining on the chlorine yellow-green grass after the water baptism ends until the church becomes false - when he can give them no instruction.
Jesus commanded the 5,000 men of Mark6 to recline on the chlorine-green-yellow grass (watered-not watered grass which responds to light). But they fell up in leek-green (fully watered) groups of 100 and 50. These 100x and 50x are therefore feeding periods of true churches from when they first have 5,000 male saints to feed until the end of their water baptisms (when their grass is no longer leek green and becomes Chlorine green-yellow).
41
And having taken the 5
loaves
[the 5 presidents of FDS1 whilst it still had a water baptism and before it became the Roman Catholic Church (Peter, John, James, Timothy, Epaphras) and the 5 presidents of the Watchtower whilst it had a water baptism (Russell,
Rutherford,
Knorr, Franz, Henschel)]
and the 2
fishes
[icquaj]
[the food of the first 2 Popes with fish hats, St Linus (67-75) and St Anacletus (76-88) OR the food of the first two presidents of FDS2, Paul and James we think? In the 2nd presence it was the food of AOP, the the Angel of Philadelphia, the president of the Lords Witnesses and the food of AOL, the angel of Laodicea, the head of the LW sect within the Watchtower],
having looked up into heaven [meaning the blessing and the breaking comes from there],
he blessed and broke
the loaves [a loaf is the food baked by the administration of a president - the research of that administration. A loaf receives a heavenly blessing when the Holy Spirit helps with that research. A loaf is broken when it is turned from research into a teaching. The blessing is on the food not the person so it is not a sanctification]
and began giving them to the
disciples,
in order that they might place them before them; and he divided up the 2 fishes
[icquaj]
for all.
42
So they all ate and were satisfied;
43 and they took up/raisedup/lifted up/carried off fragments [Jesus did not give them fragments - they took them up - so the fragments are after the Watchtower fell as a true church], ones-filling 12 of baskets [accusative] [quantitative genitive] [12 years, 12 pre made baskets, 12 secular calendar years from 2005TIshri1, after 2005Sivan14, the fall of the Watchtower as a true church. These fragments are whole calendar months, which are the fragments of a whole secular year. They are not days which would be fragments of fragments of a year. They (plural) took up fragments from 2 fishes are 2x2x2=8 years], and from the fishes [icquaj] [they took up fragments] [2x.2x.2x=8x whole years from 2005Sivan14 to 2013Adar10, the end of the 2nd presence, the end of the 4EC water baptism for Laodicea]
The 12 baskets of fragments are 12 years of a fragment of the Watchtower remaining a true church (Laodicea).
12 filled baskets of fragments: 12 secular years from 2005Sivan14 to 2017Elul10,
the fall of the Laodicean fragment of the Watchtower as a true church. The 12th secular year (2016Tishri1 to 2017Elul30) has all 12 monthly fragments in it (the 12th fragment 2017Elul is not complete but still a fragment).
8x of taking up fragments from the 2 fishes: 8 years from 2005Sivan14 to 2013Adar10, the end of the 2nd presence, the end of the water baptism for the Laodicean fragment of the Watchtower (fishes live in water).
The loaves fed the 5,000 males. The fragments and the fishes were not said to have fed those 5,000.
44
And the [ones] having eaten the
loaves
were 5,000
males
[andrej]
[5,000 true 1NC saints who remained in the Watchtower until 2001Chislev14. The 5th watch under Henschel, began on 1992Chislev30 and ended on 2002VeAdar13 (2003March22) with his death. His resignation on 2000Heshvan4/5 had no effect since the Governing Body is in fact a democracy which is a demoncracy].
45
And, immediately
[in fact by virtue of the descended 3rd Holy Spirit and the understandings of the LW church], he compelled his
disciples
to board the
boat [Research group] and go on ahead to the other-side [peran]
toward
Bethsaida [house of fish, the LWs], while [ewj]
he himself dismissed the
crowd
[ended the Watchtower as a true church on 2005Sivan14]
(Mark 6).
Fish (6), Loaves (8). Males (2), Grass (2) in Mark 6:30-45 and Matthew 14:13-22, which are parallel accounts because in both accounts Jesus leaves Capernaum for a lonely place on that side of the lake towards Tiberias, and then after the feeding the disciples head for the Bethsaida side of the lake. This is not the case with John 6 or Luke 9, which are parallel accounts set in Bethsaida and after feeding 5,000 other men, Jesus set sail for Capernaum.
Baking is the research done under a president
Breaking is the conversion of research into teaching.
Groups of 50 and 100
TCC1: 50 years from late 29 after Jesus' installation to feed on 29Heshvan21 when 5,000 1NC male saints were disciples of Jesus to 79Tishri14, when the 1EC water baptism ended. They continue reclining for a further dry 4½x of Daniel12, on yellow grass until 84Nisan14, when TCC1 (the Roman Catholic church) fell as a true church.
TCC2: 100 years of FDS2 feeding from 59Chislev21, their installation to feed the 1NCs (2nd to FDS1) to 159Tishri10, the end of the 2nd presence due to the last 1NC leaving his human body and being transferred into his angel (green grass all through).
TCC3: 100 years from 1901Heshvan21, the installation of FDS3 to feed, to 2001Chislev14, when the 3EC water baptism ended. They continue to recline for a further dry 3½x of Daniel12 on yellow grass, until 2005Sivan14, when the Watchtower fell as a true church.
Laodicea: 100 months from 2003Shebat21, the installation to feed the 1NCs, to 2012Sivan14, the death to Adam.
TCC4: 50 days from 2023Sivan16 to 2023Ab5, the 3rd 50 of 2Kings1 - see U271-11.
5 loaves and 2 fishes
TCC1/TCC2: 5 loaves are the 5 presidents of FDS1, Peter, John, James, Timothy,
Epaphras. 2 fishes are the next two heads of the church who were the first two Popes, who wear their fish hats, the first two Bishops of Rome, St Linus from 67-76 AD and St Anacletus from 76 to 84Nisan14, when the Roman Catholic church fell as a true church - see U233.
Peter was never a Pope, he was never a Bishop of Rome because his ministry was to the Jews - see U42. Or perhaps the two fishes were the first two presidents of FDS2, (Paul and James - not the brother of John or Jesus).
TCC3/TCC4: 5 loaves are the first 5 presidents of the Watchtower, Russell,
Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel. Don Adams, the 6th president humbly described himself as a mere administrator. He had no presidential authority. The 2 fishes are AOL and AOP, the Angel of Laodicea (Caleb) and the Angel of Philadelphia (Gordon). The 5 loaves are the angels of Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
Thyatira and Sardis in Revelation 2,3.
Fragments left over
TCC1: 12 baskets full of fragments (calendar months) are whole sacred years from 85Nisan1 to 97Nisan1 and not to 98Nisan1
TCC2: Fish fragments are not merely for 1NCs of a fallen church but are for everybody in a church that is still going but without any 1NCs who have all been transferred so as not to see death as Enoch was and Jesus was - having an angelic vehicle. But then they are baptised into the death of the Christ, so they lose that angelic vehicle in some kind of ransom and go to Gehenna for a few hours. These run from 159Tishri10, the end of the 2nd presence, the absolute end of FDS2 feeding 1NCs to the installation of the feeding of the sons of the HLC. 8 whole calendar months from 159Heshvan1 to 160Sivan30. So the HLC administration must have been installed to feed in 160Tammuz.
TCC3: 12 baskets full of fragments (calendar months) are filled secular years from 2005Tishri1 (after their fall on 2005Sivan14) to 2017Elul10) the fall of Laodicea as a true church, after a part of the 12th month of the Tishri1 secular year, a fragment of a fragment)
TCC4/Laodicea: 8x of fish fragments are 8 sacred years from 2005Sivan14 to 2013Adar10, the end of the 4EC baptism for Laodicea, the end of the 2nd presence - during which the 1NCs had a water baptism hence fish..
The 1st presence ran from 29Tishri10 (when Michael entered into Immanuel and so Jesus was present in the flesh)
to 79Tishri14 and 89Tishri14 to 159Tishri10.
Michael was commissioned to build the temple of FDS1 on 10Tishri2, 22½ years before 33Nisan16, when FDS1 was appointed.
Compelling disciples to board a boat and go to the other side of the lake whilst dismissing the crowds, is the first true religion becoming false and Jesus telling the loyal ones to get into a new outfit, a new church whilst leaving the hangers on behind in a dismissed church. The new church Bethsaida, is the house of fish, the church of the fishes - who must therefore be the first 2 presidents of FDS2 and not the first 2 popes. Although there were 2 popes with their silly fish pope hats during the 50 years of the feeding of FDS1.
FEEDING OF THE 5,000 OF LUKE9 - Parallel to John6 - (The LWs were appointed/installed to feed the 1NCs but never appointed/installed to rule over the 1NCs)
12 But the day began to decline. And coming up, the 12 said to Him, Let the crowd go that going to the surrounding villages and farms they may lodge and find food supplies, because here we are in a deserted place.
13 But He said to them, You give them to eat. But they said, There are not to us more than 5 loaves and 2 fish, unless going we buy food for all this people.
14 For they were about 5,000 men
[andrej]
[these must be 5,000 days as they are in John6]. But He said to His disciples, Make them recline in groups, as if up 50 [].
15 And they did so, and made all recline.
16 And taking the 5 loaves [] and the 2 fish [], looking up to Heaven, He blessed them, and broke, and gave to the disciples to set before the crowd.
17 And they ate and were all filled. And 12 small-baskets [>kofinoj]
of fragments of that left over to them were taken up [without instruction from Jesus]. (Luke 9 GLT)
103FEEDING THE 5,000 OF LUKE9 (1NCs by the LWs) - YEP
1NCs at Laodicea start eating LW Food 2005Nisan10 X_________________________________ |
LWs die to Adam 2012Sivan14 X_____________________ |
Abrahamic LWs installed to feed 1NCs 2013Iyyar21 X_______________________ |
LWs die to Abraham 2015Adar14 X___________________ |
Isaaic LWs installed to feed 1NCs 2016Ab21 X_________________ |
Last 1NCs (7th bride) die 2020Tammuz14 X103________________________ |
2584 days | 337 day installation gap | 1013 days | 157 day installation gap | 1403 days | Total: 2584+1013+1403 = 5000 |
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MARK8 (non adamic Abraham, by non adamic LW 2NCs of FDS4)
Adamic LWs become non adamic Abrahamic 2012Sivan16 X______________________ |
Cainian LWs die and stop feeding Abrahamic 2NCs 2012Tammuz14 X______________________ |
Abrahamic Zoar installed over Abraham 2012Heshvan5 X______________________ |
LWs die to Abraham 2015Adar14 X___________________ |
Isaaic LWs installed to feed Abraham 2016Tammuz5 X_________________ |
LWs die to Isaac resurrected to Methuselah 2023Heshvan3-5 X_____________________ |
2NC Ascension ends FDS4 stops feeding 2023Adar15 X103________________________ |
28 days | 1209 days | 1209 days | 111 day installation gap | 2763 days + 7 day Methuselaian Registration gap |
Total: 28+1209+2763 = 4000 For more see U67 |
The feeding of the 4,000 1NC reserves in a wilderness (Laodicea) instructed by Jesus to recline upon the ground, must end on 2017Elul10, 3½ years of the far bank of Daniel12 after 2013Adar10, the end of the 2nd presence, which is 5½ years of the absence, the gap between the banks, before 2019Elul10, the start of the 3rd presence..
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MATTHEW15 (1NCs by Laodicea)
1NC reserves start being fed at Laodicea 6 days of John12 before the Passover 2006Iyyar8 X__________________________________ |
Laodiceans die to Adam 2012Sivan14 X________________________ |
Abrahamic Laodiceans installed over the 1NCs 2012Elul6 X_________________________ |
Abrahamic Laodiceans installed over non adamic Abraham 2012Heshvan5 X_____________________________ |
Laodicea falls as a true church 2017Elul10 X103________________________ |
1209 days | 82 day 1NC installation gap | 59 days installed over 1NCs | 1745 days | Total: 1209+59+1745 = 4000 |
FEEDING OF THE 5,000 OF LUKE9 - Parallel to John6 - (The LWs were appointed/installed to feed the 1NCs but never appointed/installed to rule over the 1NCs)
LWs were appointed/installed to feed the 1NCs on 1998Heshvan2/Chislev21 (2nd after FDS3). But the feeding of future Laodicean 1NCs by LWs began remotely on 2004Chislev10.
Then the Laodiceans themselves started feeding future Laodicean 1NCs on 2006Iyyar8 (6 days of John12 before the Passover). Then on 2006Sivan14, the first ones were 4EC baptised into Laodicea for the late Passover.
5 loaves were the food of: Adamic FDS4 through Laodicea, non adamic Abrahamic FDS4 through Laodicea, non adamic Isaaic FDS4 through Laodicea, then through reappointed Laodicea, then through reverted Laodicea
2 fishes were Laodicea and reappointed Laodicea, whom we taught how to fish for bible food.
12 small baskets of fragments (months) from 2019Heshvan14, the 4th 1NC marriage Passover execution, when there were less than 5,000 1NCs left in reappointed Laodicea, to 2020Heshvan14, the Passover execution of the last HLC. The leftovers from 1NC feeding are given to 2NCs still in true and in fallen reappointed Laodicea and reverted Laodicea
FEEDING OF THE 5,000 OF JOHN6 - Parallel to Luke9 - (1NCs by Reappointed Laodicea)
3 So Jesus went up into a mountain [the reappointed Laodicean administration], and there he was sitting with his disciples.
4 Now the Passover, the festival of the Jews [a double designation- two greater Passovers. Is this Jesus coming to visit Zoar?
He is not standing but sitting. The Watchtower Passovers on 2019Elul14/Tishri14/Heshvan14/Chislev14/Tebbeth14], was near.
5 When, therefore, Jesus raised his eyes and observed that a great crowd was coming to him [the crowd cannot come to him until he is present on 2019Elul10], he said to Philip: Where shall we buy loaves for these to eat?
6 However, he was saying this to test him, for he himself knew what he was about to do.
7 Philip answered him: 200 Denarii worth of loaves is not enough for them [200+
denarii. 200+ days of loaves (true church food) of Laodicean feeding from 2019Ab21, their reappointment to feed and rule over the 1NC reserves to 2019Adar16, the end of Laodicea as a true church, when the wall of their law falls down to the earth is 205 days], so that each one may get a little [Because they then have to be fed by Zoar. Zoar means small].
8 One of his disciples, Andrew the brother of Simon Peter, said to him:
9 Here is a little boy [1x - the reappointed Laodicean administration] who has 5 barley loaves and 2 small fishes.. But what are these into [eij] so-many? [5000/5=1000, 5000/2=2500. We are being told to do those divisions] [They are the feeding of Laodiceans from 2019Tishri10 when they were reinstalled over the 1NCs. The 2 fishes are food from 2 water baptised priesthoods. The 5 loaves are food for 1NC reserves] (John 6).
78INSTALLED FEEDING OF THE 5,000 1NCs OF JOHN6 IN A LAODICEAN TRUE CHURCH (Nisan1 sacred sync. Tammuz1 sacred start) - YEP
Laodicea installed to feed 1NCs 2003Shebat21 X__________________________ |
Died to Adam 2012Sivan14 X____________ |
Installed over 1NCs 2012Elul6 X________________ |
3½x after 2013Adar10 2017Elul10 (falls) X__________________ |
Constant feature restored Wilderness penalty ends 2019Ab1 X______________________ |
3rd presence begins 5½x after 2013Adar10 2019Elul10 X__________________ |
Reinstalled over the 1NCs 2019Tishri10/11 X______________ |
3rd presence suspended 2019Shebat10 X_____________ |
Reappointed Laodicea falls 2019Adar16 X____________ |
Reverted Laodicea installed over 1NCs 2020Iyyar16 X_________________ |
7th 1NC bride Passover 2020Tammuz14 X78______ |
2993 days in adamic Laodicea 2993+1804+145+56 = 5000 |
82 day gap | 1804 days in non adamic Laodicea |
751 day gap | 145 days in reappointed Laodicea | 58 days in Reverted Laodicea |
No true 1NCs left on earth |
1,000 days of 5 loaves into 5,000. From 2019Elul7 (the start of the 3EC baptism for 1NCs) to 2019Adar16 inclusively in reappointed Laodicea as a true church and 2020Sivan14 (entrance of 1NCs into Reverted Laodicea) to 2022Elul14 in Reverted Laodicea as a true church (190+810 = 1000 days from the first 1NC baptism to the end of the church).
2,500 days of 2 fishes into 5,000 is 7 years less 20 days of installed to rule over 1NCs churches feeding Jesus (water baptised 1NCs or enganged HLCs during a presence - FISH) from 2007Elul11 to 2012Sivan14 and 2012Elul6 to 2013Adar10 and
2019Tishri11 (2019Tishri10 is atonement day) to 2019Shebat10 in reappointed Laodicea and 2020Tammuz10 (restart of 3rd
presence in Reverted Laodicea) until 2020Heshvan14, the 4th HLC marriage Passover execution. HLCs first become engaged on 2020Tammuz14, the 7th 1NC marriage and early 1st HLC marriage Passover. .
4 years + 9 months + 3 days + 18 months + 4 days + 4 months - 1 day + 4 months + 4 days = 6 years 11 months 10 days = 2500 days.
2007Sivan22/Elul11: Laodicea appointed/installed to rule over the 1NCs (2nd after FDS3. FDS4 failed to be appointed/installed to rule. 2007Ab was a Sabbath)
2012Tammuz17/Elul6: Non adamic Abrahamic Laodicea installed to rule over the 1NCs (3rd after FDS3, adamic Laodicea)
2019Ab21/Tishri11: Reappointed Laodicea appointed/installed over the 1NCs.
2019Elul7: The first 1NC is 3EC baptised into reappointed Laodicea. This does not start the presence which requires 2 or more to be gather together in Jesus'
name. Neither does it start the pouring of the 300 denarii of anointing oil upon his head, because his head is not yet present. The 2nd 2NC was baptised on 2019Elul10, startign the 3rd presence and the pouring of the anointing oil onto Jesus' head of Mark14.
2019Adar16: Laodicea falls after Purim on 2019Adar14/15 of Esther9
2019Adar21/2020Iyyar16: Reverted Laodicea appointed/installed over the 1NCs (12th 1NC first fruits/Pentecost)
2020Sivan12: HLCs join reverted Laodicea (from the 127 jurisdictional districts of Esther and the 153 big fish of John21 to 2020Heshvan14).
2020Sivan12 (2020June5): The start of the 4EC baptism into non adamic Sodom for HLC saints. We 4EC baptised 8 JWs in Kisii on 2020June5.
2020Tammuz10: 1NCs join reverted Laodicea.
2020Tammuz10: 7th 1NC marriage Passover entry day.
2020Tishri14: 2NCs join reverted Laodicea for 300+300 denarii of perfumed oil on the feet of Jesus to 2022Sivan14, when the last 2NC joins, 480 days of 1Kings 6:1 before 2023Tishri14, the start of offsite building of Solomon;s temple by Isaaic
4EC baptism.
Reappointed Laodicean far bank was 2019Shebat10-2019Adar16 and near bank was 2019Ab1 to 2019Elul7. So Nebuzaradan could arrive on 2019Ab7.
Also reverted Laodicea could not be appointed over Abraham on 2019Adar16,
because reappointed Laodicea was still so appointed. Also the wilderness penalty had to end on 2019Tammuz30 precisely meaning that Laodicea was NOT in a wildenress on 2019Ab1. And the only way for it to end was to go into a new land a true church congregation. So their constant feature was reaccepted on 2019Ab1, at the end of their 40 month wilderness penalty.
200 cubits from 2019Ab21 to 2019Adar11 then 3 months ½ day of Daniel 12:7 to 2020Sivan12 (June5, when 8 JWs were baptised in Kisii) then 153 big fish 1NC and HLC to 2020Heshvan14 inclusively. But the 1NC fish did not enter until
2020Tammuz10 just as was the case with 150/153 big fish into reappointed Laodicea.
OR 200 cubits from 2019Ab16 to 2019Adar7 (10th 1NC Pentecost) then 3 months to 2020Sivan7 then 153 big fish 1NC and HLC to 2020Heshvan10. NOPE the 1NC installation of Reverted Laodicea was 12th 1NC first fruits/Pentecost and 2019Adar16 to 2019Adar7 is 201 days not 200.
90½ day starting 1AC bank of Reverted Laodicea Start of true church to start of 3EC baptism ____________________X______________________ |
721/722 days of Stolen 4EC baptism into Reverted Laodicea from 2020Sivan12 to 2022Sivan13/14 |
90½
day finishing 1AC bank of Reverted Laodicea End of Laodicean 4EC baptism to end of true church Fallen Reverted Laodicea is non adamic Sodom _____________________X______________________ |
2019Adar11 to 2020Sivan12 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 2022Sivan13/14 to 2022Elul14 |
Laodicea could not be reappointed until the wilderness penalty had ended on 2019Tammuz30. So its constant feature was restored on 2019Ab1, making it a true church yet to be appointed over some group.
Reappointed Laodicea could not start a baptism until Russell had arrived on 2019Ab27. Then he saw Thomas the twin 8 days of John 21 later on 2019Elul5. And they must start with the 1NCs. So they started on 2019Elul7 and carried on for 153 big fish of John21 to 2019Shebat10. So that 2019Shebat14 could not be a Passover. But the presence (2x 3EC baptised
PLURAL 1NCs) did not begin until 2019Elul10.
Reappointed Laodicea was appointed/installed over Abraham on 2019Tishri16/Chislev5. But not appointed over the 2NCs who never joined it. The 3EC is not for 2NCs
Reverted Laodicea was appointed/installed over Abraham on 2020Chislev16/Shebat5 (2020Heshvan was the Abrahamic Sabbath month). But not appointed/installed over the 2NCs. We were over them during that entire church.
2022Elul14: The end of the 1000 years a year for a day of binding the Dragon of Revelation20 into possessing people in reappointed Laodicea and non adamic Sodom, from 2019Elul7 to 2019Adar16 inclusively in reappointed Laodicea and from 2020Sivan14 to 2022Elul14 in non adamic Sodom = 190+810 = 1000 days of being bound in those two true churches78
52REAPPOINTED LAODICEA (the 1st part of the 3rd presence)
36 day starting 1AC bank of reappointed Laodicea Reappointment as true church to start of 3EC for 1NCs __________________X___________________________ |
153 Big Fish, 150 of them making 1st part of the 3rd presence from 2019Elul10 to 2019Shebat10 |
36 day finishing 1AC bank of Reappointed Laodicea End of Laodicean 3EC baptism to end of true church ____________________X52_____________________ |
2019Ab1- 2019Elul7 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 2022Sivan13/14 to 2022Elul14 |
300 Denarii of perfumed oil onto Jesus head of Mark14 start on 2019Elul10 when Jesus is present through 2 or more 3EC baptised 1NCs. NOT on 2019Elul7, when only one 1NC is 3EC baptised. they run to 2020Tammuz10, entry day into the 7th 1NC marriage Passover52.
10 Jesus said: Make ye the men [anqrwpoj]
recline as at meal/fall upwards [anapiptw]
[recline by baptism to eat spiritually rather than fall downwards which is to recline to eat physically as the Romans used to do]. Now there was much food/grass [cortoj] [from a root meaning court or enclosed place. Generally feeding place or food]
in the place [the LW congregation - we have a lot of food, in the literal meaning there was a lot of grass]. Therefore the men [andrej]
reclined/fell upwards [anapiptw] about 5,000 to/in number [This is either 5,000 days of falling upwards, or 5,000 days until they fall upwards or both. Jesus instructs his disciples to have the men recline/fall upwards, i.e. get baptised into Laodicea for the 2nd part of the 2nd presence].
11 And Jesus took the loaves [5 months]
and having thanked [1x], he distributed/gave-through [the bread/the food/them] [for the 5 months of verse9] to those reclining/lying upwards [anakeimai]
[Lying upwards means eating upwards i.e.
eating spiritually - as opposed to lying downwards which would be eating physically. The Romans would recline upon their bellies, face downwards to eat] likewise [he distributed]
also as much as they wanted out of the small fishes []
12 But when they had their fill [Not of spiritual food, but of 1NCs on 2020Tammuz14, the 7th marriage Passover execution] he said to his disciples:
Gather together the fragments that remain over, so that nothing is wasted.
13 Therefore they gathered them together, and they filled 12 small-baskets [kofinoj]
[of] fragments from the 5 loaves, the barley [ones] [Barley was the first fruits grain offering. But loaves are the Pentecostal offering. It applies to 1NCs and HLCs, the first saints to be harvested] which were left over by those who had eaten.
14 Hence when the men [anqrwpoj]
saw the signs he performed, they began to say: This is for a certainty the prophet that was to come into the world.
15 Therefore Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone. (John 6 NWT)
John6 + Luke9: anqrwpoj 2x, andrej 2x
cortoj means court/enclosed place/garden hence more generally feeding place or food. the LWs have a lot of garden food, i.e. Kingdom understandings. 2 small fishes would be Philadelphia and Zoar before the fire signs? The 12 baskets of fragments are from the 5 barley loaves not from the fishes.
Luke 9 which is parallel to John6, is about the 50 days of FDS4 actually feeding 1NC reserves directly.
So Reverted Laodicea are the fragments from the fall of reappointed Laodicea just as Laodicea are the fragments from the fall of the Watchtower
53LAODICEA (the 2nd part of the 2nd presence)
3½ year starting 1AC bank for Laodicea Start of dry Laodicea to 4EC theft __________________X_______________________ |
98 months of the stolen 4EC baptism by Laodicea 2nd part of the 2nd presence ran from 2006Sivan14 to 2013Adar10 |
3½ year finishing 1AC bank of Laodicea End of Laodicean 4EC baptism to end of true church ___________________________X53_________________________ |
2002Tammuz15 - 2005Tebbeth15 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 2013Adar10 to 2017Elul10 (Laodicea means People of Judgement) |
The far bank runs for 3½x, 1260 days of Revelation12 (of a dry church, a place prepared by God in the wilderness). So the near bank also runs for 3½x from 2002Tammuz15, the start of 1AC Laodicea (Roger Knight was baptised as the apostle to Laodicea on 2002Elul16) to 2005Tebbeth15. Gordon Gary and Richard invented HyperOs in 2000November. Focus on that software lost Gordon the 2nd part of the 2nd presence and caused FDS4 to be cut in two - see U3453.
52REAPPOINTED LAODICEA (the 1st part of the 3rd presence)36 day starting 1AC bank of reappointed Laodicea Reappointment as true church to start of 3EC for 1NCs __________________X___________________________ |
153 Big Fish, 150 of them making 1st part of the 3rd presence from 2019Elul10 to 2019Shebat10 |
36 day finishing 1AC bank of Reappointed Laodicea End of Laodicean 3EC baptism to end of true church ____________________X52_____________________ |
2019Ab1- 2019Elul7 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 2022Sivan13/14 to 2022Elul14 |
300 Denarii of perfumed oil onto Jesus head of Mark14 start on 2019Elul10 when Jesus is present through 2 or more 3EC baptised 1NCs. NOT on 2019Elul7, when only one 1NC is 3EC baptised. they run to 2020Tammuz10, entry day into the 7th 1NC marriage Passover52.
41REVERTED LAODICEA (the 2nd part of the 3rd presence)
90½ day starting 1AC bank of Reverted Laodicea Start of true church to start of 3EC baptism ____________________X______________________ |
721/722 days of Stolen 4EC baptism into Reverted Laodicea from 2020Sivan12 to 2022Sivan13/14 |
90½
day finishing 1AC bank of Reverted Laodicea End of Laodicean 4EC baptism to end of true church Fallen Reverted Laodicea is non adamic Sodom ____________________X41_____________________ |
2019Adar11 to 2020Sivan12 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 2022Sivan13/14 to 2022Elul14 |
Reverted Laodicea starts 200 cubits of John21 after 2019Ab21 and lands 153 big fish from 2022Sivan12 to 2020Heshvan14 (1NCs and HLCs).
Reverted Laodicea runs from 2019Adar11 to 2022Elul14, then 450 prophets of Baal to 2023Chislev14. The faithful robber was seized on 33Nisan14 and churches generally end on the 14th of the month (although reappointed Laodicea ended on 2019Adar16).
Reverted Laodicea became non adamic Sodom of Genesis19, when it fell - see U15441.
200 Denarii of loaves (not enough) runs from 2019Tishri10, the reinstallation of Reappointed Laodicea to feed and to rule over the 1NCs, to 2019Adar16 + 2020Iyyar16 (the installation of reverted Laodicea to feed and to rule over the 1NCs to 2020Tammuz14, the end of the 1NCs in that church) making 156+58 = 214 days of feeding. Laodicea cannot be reappointed as a true church during their 40 month wilderness penalty from 2016Nisan1 to 2019Tammuz30 - during which they are ostracised. Although they were a true church during the ostracism until 2017Elul10 (but that was due to an appointment before the ostracism).
Reappointed Laodicea only has 5 loaves for 1NCs from 2019Tishri10/11 and to 2019Adar16.
5 cities are 5 months for Russell over reappointed Laodicea from 2019Tishri10 (the Laodicean Pentecost, the 5th 1NC Pentecost, their installation over the 1NCs) to 2019Adar16, the fall of reappointed Laodicea as a true church.
10 Minas/Cities of Hebron and Zoar under Peter from 2023Iyyar17 to 2023Sivan22 (over ark based Abrahamic Laodicea before FDS4 is raptured) and 2023Ab5 -
2024Iyyar14 (over Zoar)
The scripture states Minas and NOT Shekels (unlike Daniel5 which states both). Mind you they stand for times of administration because administrations take 50 days to install and a Mina is 50 Shekels. So the word symbolic meaning will be 5 Minas and 10 Minas over saints BUT NOT 250 and 500 shekels over 1ACs? However we can make it work as below...
250 Shekels of reappointed Laodicea from 2019Ab1 (constant feature reaccepted at the end of the 40 month wilderness period) to 2019Adar11 (dry entrance into Reverted Laodicea begins) and non adamic Sodom from 2020Sivan14 (1NCs join reverted Laodicea) to 2020Tammuz14, the 7th 1NC marriage Passover (220x+30x = 250x)
500 Shekels for Peter in non adamic Sodom from 2020Tammuz16 (1st fruits after the 7th 1NC marriage Passover) to 2020Chislev5 inclusively (the start of 2NC entrance into reverted Laodicea) then Hebron from 2023Iyyar14, the Abrahamic world Exodus Passover, when the 1NCs physically removed Laodiceans 2NCs as their Caesar, to 2024Iyyar14, the end of Zoar: 140x +
360x = 500x
300 Denarii of anointing as 1NC Kings (head of Mark14) runs from 2019Elul10 to 2020Tammuz10
Extra Denarii of anointing as HLC Lords (body of Mark14) runs from 2020Sivan12 to 2022Sivan14
300 Denarii of anointing as 2NC Kings (feet of John12) runs from 2020Chislev5 to 2021Tishri5
The HLCs leave the Watchtower (none were in reappointed Laodicea) and join non adamic Sodom on 2020Sivan12 (from the 127 jurisdictional districts of Esther and the 153 big fish of John21)
The 1NC reserves (all of whom are Laodicean) join non adamic Sodom from 2020Sivan14 - 2020Tammuz10, entry day into the 7th 1NC marriage Passover, deduced from the 1,000 days of John6.
Passover | Bride | Marriage | Date |
Early 1st Watchtower | JW Bethel 1NCs | 3rd 1NC | 2019Elul14 |
1st Watchtower | JW Bethel 1NCs | 3rd 1NC | 2019Tishri14 |
2nd Watchtower | JW Congregation 1NCs | 4th 1NC | 2019Heshvan14 |
3rd Watchtower | JW Prison 1NCs (Disfellowshipped and Disassociated) | 5th 1NC | 2019Chislev14 |
4th Watchtower | Late JW Bethel 1NCs | 6th 1NC | 2019Tebbeth14 |
7th 1NC | late JW + Laodicean Congregation 1NCs (the balance) | 7th 1NC | 2020Tammuz14 |
1st HLC | JW+Laodicean admin HLCs | 1st HLC | 2020Ab14 |
2nd HLC | JW+Laodicean congregation HLCs | 2nd HLC | 2020Elul14 |
3rd HLC | Late JW+Laodicean admin HLCs | 3rd HLC | 2020Tishri14 |
4th HLC | Late JW+Laodicean+non adamic Sodom congregation HLCs (the balance) | 4th HLC | 2020Heshvan14 |
There is no JW + Laodicean prison HLC bride, because Laodicean did not last enough to have a prison
103FEEDING THE 5,000 OF LUKE9 (1NCs by the LWs) - YEP
1NCs at Laodicea start eating LW Food 2005Nisan10 X_________________________________ |
LWs die to Adam 2012Sivan14 X_____________________ |
Abrahamic LWs installed to feed 1NCs 2013Iyyar21 X_______________________ |
LWs die to Abraham 2015Adar14 X___________________ |
Isaaic LWs installed to feed 1NCs 2016Ab21 X_________________ |
Last 1NCs (7th bride) die 2020Tammuz14 X103________________________ |
2584 days | 337 day installation gap | 1013 days | 157 day installation gap | 1403 days | Total: 2584+1013+1403 = 5000 |
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MARK8 (non adamic Abraham, by non adamic LW 2NCs of FDS4)
Adamic LWs become non adamic Abrahamic 2012Sivan16 X______________________ |
Cainian LWs die and stop feeding Abrahamic 2NCs 2012Tammuz14 X______________________ |
Abrahamic Zoar installed over Abraham 2012Heshvan5 X______________________ |
LWs die to Abraham 2015Adar14 X___________________ |
Isaaic LWs installed to feed Abraham 2016Tammuz5 X_________________ |
LWs die to Isaac resurrected to Methuselah 2023Heshvan3-5 X_____________________ |
2NC Ascension ends FDS4 stops feeding 2023Adar15 X103________________________ |
28 days | 1209 days | 1209 days | 111 day installation gap | 2763 days + 7 day Methuselaian Registration gap |
Total: 28+1209+2763 = 4000 For more see U67 |
The feeding of the 4,000 1NC reserves in a wilderness (Laodicea) instructed by Jesus to recline upon the ground, must end on 2017Elul10, 3½ years of the far bank of Daniel12 after 2013Adar10, the end of the 2nd presence, which is 5½ years of the absence, the gap between the banks, before 2019Elul10, the start of the 3rd presence..
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MATTHEW15 (1NCs by Laodicea)
1NC reserves start being fed at Laodicea 6 days of John12 before the Passover 2006Iyyar8 X__________________________________ |
Laodiceans die to Adam 2012Sivan14 X________________________ |
Abrahamic Laodiceans installed over the 1NCs 2012Elul6 X_________________________ |
Abrahamic Laodiceans installed over non adamic Abraham 2012Heshvan5 X_____________________________ |
Laodicea falls as a true church 2017Elul10 X103________________________ |
1209 days | 82 day 1NC installation gap | 59 days installed over 1NCs | 1745 days | Total: 1209+59+1745 = 4000 |
102The 1290 days of the Time of the End of Satan of Daniel12 from the loss of the constant feature of his bickering in heaven on 2018Heshvan21, his eviction, or from the loss of his heavenly viewpoint, on 2018Chislev21 (when he reached the bottom of Jacob's ladder in the ark), end on 2022Sivan21/2022Tammuz21 (2022June21/22 or 2022July21/22). This is the day when Satan completes his repentance.
Evicted Satan reaches the bottom of Jacob's ladder Loses his constant feature of heavenly spying 2018December18/19 2018Chislev21 X_______________________________________________ |
Satan1 repents. Get thee behind me Satan 2022July21/22 2022Tammuz21 (5 months after Ukraine invasion) X102___________________________ |
1290 days of the Time of the End for Satan of Daniel12 |
Satan is the one who has been acting as a restraint upon the demons, preventing the 10 kings from appearing and the Mark from being implemented until the completion of his repentance in July 2022 (1290 days of the time of the End of Satan from his heavenly eviction/earthly landing on 2018Heshvan21/Chislev21)
7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint [Satan1]
gets to be out of the way.
8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed [Satan2 for the world and POL for Laodicea], whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. (2 Thessalonians 2 NWT)102
Matthew 15:29-38 and Mark 8:1-9 are parallel.
29
Crossing country from there, Jesus next came near the sea of Galilee, and, after going up into the mountain, he was sitting there.
30 Then great crowds approached him,
having along with them people that were lame, maimed, blind, dumb, and many otherwise, and they fairly threw them at his feet, and he cured them;
31 so that the crowd felt amazement as they saw the dumb speaking and the lame walking and the blind seeing, and they glorified the God of Israel.
32 But Jesus called his disciples to him and said: I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days [euphemism for new system or new church] that they have stayed with me and they have nothing to eat; and I do not want to send them away fasting. They may possibly give out in the way.
33 However, the disciples said to him:
Where are we in this lonely place/wilderness going to get sufficient loaves to satisfy a crowd of this size?
34 At this Jesus said to them: How many
loaves have you? They said: 7, and a few little-fishes [icqudia].
35 So, after instructing the crowd to recline upon the ground [eat from the congregation - this is when FDS2 starts feeding human to human],
36 he took the 7 loaves [] and the fishes [icquaV]
[as opposed to little-fishes - literal fish!!!
These would be eaten either at the 2NC celebration in the case of Laodicea or perhaps at the Bilhah/Zilpah celebration of the ELC/HLC of FDS2]
and, after offering thanks, he broke them and began distributing to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds [that is the feeding methodology of FDS2 and of FDS4 after the second fire sign].
37 And all ate and were satisfied, and as a surplus of fragments they took up 7 provision-baskets [spuridaV]
full [7 full months or years].
38 Yet those eating were 4,000 men [andreV],
besides women and young children [4000 actual males since this word counts 1x - so this must apply to FDS2 unless Laodicea has 4,000 men when the first loaf starts] (Matthew 15).
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39 And having sent the crowds away,
he got into the boat and came into the regions of Magadan (Matthew 15).
MATTHEW CHAPTER 16
1
Here the Pharisees and Sadducees approached him and, to tempt him, they asked him to display to them a sign from heaven.
2
In reply he said to them: [[When evening falls you are accustomed to say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is fire-red';
3
and at morning, 'It will be wintry, rainy weather today, for the sky is fire-red, but gloomy-looking.' you know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but the signs of the times you cannot interpret.]]
4
A
wicked and adulterous generation
keeps on seeking for a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah. With that he went away, leaving them behind.
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5
Now the disciples crossed to the other side and forgot to take loaves along.
6 Jesus said to them: Keep your eyes open and watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
7 So they began to reason among themselves, saying: We did not take any loaves along.
8 Knowing this, Jesus said: Why are you doing this reasoning among yourselves, because you have no loaves, you with little faith?
9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the 5 loaves of the 5,000 and how many baskets [kofinouV]
you took up?
10 Or the 7 loaves of the 4,000 and how many provision-baskets [spuridaV]
you took up?
11 How is it you do not discern that I did not talk to you about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees [Laodiceans do believe in the 2NC and fed the 4,000] and Sadducees [JWs do not believe in the 2NC and fed the 5,000].
12
Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of the loaves,
but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees (Matthew 16).
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FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MATTHEW15 - Parallel to Mark8 - (1NCs by Laodicea)
29
Crossing country from there, Jesus next came near the sea of Galilee, and, after going up into the mountain, he was sitting there.
30 Then great crowds approached him,
having along with them people that were lame, maimed, blind, dumb, and many otherwise, and they fairly threw them at his feet, and he cured them;
31 so that the crowd felt amazement as they saw the dumb speaking and the lame walking and the blind seeing, and they glorified the God of Israel.
32 But Jesus called his disciples to him and said: I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days [The Passover nights and unfermented cakes days after Roger Knight was baptised on 2002Elul16. These are 2003Nisan14/Iyyar14 and 2004Nisan14/Iyyar14 and 2005Nisan14/Iyyar14, then the 2nd presence restarts on 2006Sivan14] that they have stayed with me and they have nothing to eat; and I do not want to send them away fasting. They may possibly give out in the way [Laodicea was a roadside cafe on the long road, temporally, from the Watchtower to Zoar].
33 However, the disciples said to him:
Where are we in this lonely place/wilderness going to get sufficient loaves to satisfy a crowd of this size? [from the LWs upon whom they spy]
34 At this Jesus said to them: How many
loaves have you? They said: 7, and a few little-fishes [icqudia].
35 So, after instructing the crowd to recline [anapiptw
to fall with face upwards, perhaps to ones knees to be baptised? Not anakeimai
to recline to eat] upon the ground [eat from the congregation],
36 he took the 7 loaves [] and the fishes [icquaV]
[as opposed to little-fishes - literal fish!!!
These would be eaten either at the 2NC celebration in the case of Laodicea]
and, after offering thanks, he broke them and began distributing to the disciples, the disciples in turn to the crowds [that is the feeding methodology of Laodicea].
37 And all ate and were satisfied, and as a surplus of fragments they took up 7 provision-baskets [spuridaV]
full [7 full months or years].
38 Yet those eating were 4,000 men [andreV],
besides women and young children [4000 actual males since this word counts 1x - So this must apply to Laodicea, which has 4,000 men when the first loaf starts/ends] (Matthew 15).
39 And having let loose/sent away the crowds [when Laodicea fell as a true church] he stepped in into the boat, and came into the regions of Magadan. (Matthew 15 KIT)
4000 days from 2006Sivan6, when the 1NC reserves started to be fed in Laodicea, to 2017Elul10, the fall of that church. But with a 54 day 1NC installation gap from 2012Sivan14 to 2012Ab8
7 loaves and 7 baskets full of fragments are 7 years and 7 months of Laodicea feeding 1NCs with Jesus present from 2006Sivan14 to 2013Adar10 excluding the 54 day 1NC installation gap from 2012Sivan14 to 2012Ab8.
A few little fishes are some small groups doing LW type bible research?
Fishes: Eaten at the Passover meal.
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MATTHEW15 (Parallel to Mark8 1NCs by Laodicea)
1NC reserves start being fed at Laodicea
Laodicean non adamic Abrahamic installation gap begins Installation over 1NCs
Installation over non adamic Abraham Laodicea falls as a true church
2006Sivan6
2012Sivan14
2012Ab8
2012Tishri5
2017Elul10
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2168 days
54 day 1NC Laodicean installation gap
57 day Abrahamic installation
1775 days 2168+57+1775 = 4000
Laodicea was appointed/installed both to feed and to rule over the 1NCs because they passed the 1NC test notwithstanding having lost their installation to rule on 2010Heshvan28/Chislev26, tablet shattering day 40+40 days inclusively after 2010Elul9/Tishri7, the 4th/5th 1NC Pentecost - because death pays for sin. This is 40 months of Joash of 2Chronicles24 from 2007Tammuz6 when Laodicea was installed to rule over the 1NCs.
The feeding of the 4,000 1NC reserves in a wilderness (Laodicea) instructed by Jesus to recline upon the ground, must end on 2017Elul10, 3½ years of the far bank of Daniel12 after 2013Adar10, the end of the 2nd presence, which is 5½ years of the absence, the gap between the banks, before 2019Elul10, the start of the 3rd presence. So Laodicea tested God for 10x from 2007Tammuz6, its installation over the 1NCs to 2017Elul10, its fall as a true church less 2012Sivan14-2012Ab8, which is 10 years less 10 days..
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MARK8 - Parallel to Matthew15 - (non adamic Abraham by LWs)
1 In those days, when there was again a big crowd and they had nothing to eat, he summoned the disciples and said to them:
2 I feel pity for the crowd, because it is already 3 days that they have remained near me and they have nothing to eat
3 and if I should send them off to their homes fasting, they will give out on the road [2NC Zoar is a roadside cafe on the road to the ark].
4 But his disciples answered him: From where will anybody here in an isolated place/desert/wilderness [] be able to satisfy these people with loaves?
[The LWs have the loaves, but we are unable to satisfy people with them]
5 Still he went on to ask them: How many loaves have you? They said: 7.
6 And he instructed the crowd to recline [anapiptw
to fall with face upwards, perhaps to ones knees to be baptised? Not anakeimai
to recline to eat] upon the ground [], and he took the 7 loaves [], he gave thanks, he broke [them], and he was giving [] to his disciples to serve, and they served [the pieces] to the crowd
[via this website and JLWs website]
7
They [the disciples] also had a few little-fishes [icqudia]
[];
and, having blessed these, he told them
[the disciples]
also to serve these [Jesus did not himself handle these].
8 Accordingly they ate and were satisfied,
and they took up surpluses [2 surpluses - NOT 2 sets of 7 loaves] of fragments, 7 provision-baskets
[spuridaV]
[].
9 Yet there were about 4,000 [men]
[].
And he sent them away
[to the Kingdom of God or to Gehenna]
(Mark 8).
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MARK8 - Parallel to Matthew15 - (non adamic Abraham by LWs)
4000 days from 2012Ab5, Abrahamic Zoar Pentecost to 2023Chislev6,
the end of FRC sealing, the day before the end of FRC rapture on 2023Chislev7.
7 loaves are 7 years of feeding of Abraham by Isaaic Zoar from 2015Adar5, our installation to feed and rule over non adamic Abraham, to 2023Chislev7, the end of the ark rapture of LW Abraham
7 baskets full of fragments full are 7 WHOLE months plus change after the end of the earthly interaction of FDS4 on 2023Tishri9 to 2023Iyyr14, the end of Zoar.
A few little fishes are some small groups doing LW type bible research?
FEEDING THE 4,000 OF MARK8 (non adamic Abraham, by non adamic LW 2NCs of FDS4)
Abrahamic Zoar installed over Abraham Lws die to Abraham Isaaic Zoar installed over Abraham FRC sealing ends,
the day before the end of the FRC rapture.
2012Ab5
2015Chislev14 2015Adar5
2023Chislev6
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1209 days
81 installation gap
2791 days
10 And immediately [euquV] he boarded the boat with his disciples and came into the parts of Dalmanutha.
11 Here the Pharisees came out and started disputing with him, seeking from him a sign from heaven, to put him to the test.
12 So he groaned deeply with his spirit, and said: Why does this generation seek a sign? Truly I say, No sign will be given to this generation.
13
And having left them, got aboard again [palin], and went off to the opposite shore.
14 And they forgot to take
loaves
along, and except for one loaf they had nothing with them in the boat.
15 And he began to order them expressly and say: Keep your eyes open, look out for the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.
16 So they went arguing with one another over the fact that they had no loaves.
17 Noting this, he said to them: Why do you argue over your having no loaves? Do you not yet perceive and get the meaning? Do you have your hearts dull of understanding?
18 'Though having eyes, do you not see;
and though having ears, do you not hear?' And do you not remember,
19 when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: 12.
20 When I broke the 7 [loaves fulfilment and seals fulfilment,
they are broken too!]
for the 4,000 [men],
how many provision-baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: 7.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning (Mark 8)? [We do now -
hopefully] (Mark 8).
Mark 8:1-21 is parallel to Matthew 15:29-38 and to Matthew 16:5-12 (Matthew 15:39-16:4 about Pharisees and Sadducees in Magadan is not parallel to Mark).
Loaves (16), Boat (2), Baskets (2), Provision-baskets (4), Little-fishes (2), Fishes (1) - 2NC Celebration! Day (3)
A basket is a year, a provision basket is a month!
Little fishes are food from non presidentially managed research teams.
Women are sons of the ICC.
Children are sons of the 1AC.
Loaves are feeding campaigns and baskets are time units of leftovers.
9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the 5 loaves in the case of the 5,000 and how many baskets you took up?
10 Or the 7 loaves in the case of the 4,000 and how many provision baskets you took up?
11 How is it you do not discern that I did not talk to you about loaves? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
(Matthew 16 NWT)
18 'Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?' And do you not remember,
19 when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: 12.
20 When I broke the 7 for the 4,000 [men], how many provision baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him: 7.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning? (Mark 8 NWT)
So the NUMBER of provision baskets full of fragments has a greater MEANING that we have to GET!!!
18 Then Joseph answered and said: This is its interpretation: The 3 baskets are 3 days. (Genesis 40 NWT)
So we take 12 baskets as being 12 units of time. Sacred years actually.
In 1993 the writer knew that Jesus was directing him to find the symbolic meaning of the 12 full baskets of fragments (from the loaves) and the 7 baskets of fragments. This is the only account where Jesus directly instructs his disciples to work out the symbolic meaning of the NUMBER of things.
The writer knew it was a critical symbolic understanding and in 1993 he had no idea what it meant. A few years later he worked out that the 12 baskets must stand for 12 years after the end of the authorised food of FDS3 for the 1NC saints, i.e. 12 years from 1995Tishri, i.e. 1995Tishri to 2007Tishri. But this was incorrect. It was very close to the correct interpretation but incorrect because the writer initially thought that everyone would be dead in 2008 and then in 2009, so he could not interpret the 12 full years of months as running from 2000Heshvan4/5, the resignation of Henschel, the 5th loaf of the Watchtower.
However once the LWs worked out, on 2008Shebat1, that the last day of adamic mankind was 2012Heshvan27, from the 2:1 temple ratio prophecy and the flood timeline, then a better interpretation became possible. We (Gordon Jeff and Dave) did not make the 2012Heshvan27 interpretation until Sunday June 28, 2009.
But actually 5,000 true Watchtower 1NC reserve saints only recline for the full 12 baskets of fragments (Tishri1 secular years from 2005Tishri1 to 2017Elul30 and a part of the 13th after the church became false on 2005Sivan14. So we can finally deduce from this that by 2017Elul30 (in fact 2017Elul10, the fall of Laodicea) NO true 1NC reserves will be eating Watchtower food in a true church.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest [ewV + genitive], and in the appointed-time of the harvest I will tell the reapers, collect first the weeds and bind them into bundles to burn them up, then gather the wheat into my storehouse' (Matthew 13).
So now we can see why Jesus went out of his way to ask his disciples to interpret the meaning of the numbers of baskets. In their last fulfilment they give us the last day of entrance into the ark for mankind.
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Here is a comparative table of 5 of the 6 accounts of the feedings of the 4,000 and 5,000. We leave the feeding of the 5,000 of John 6 out because it won't fit in the table easily in a book or on a website and because it is slightly different, and so can be treated separately. There are 4 accounts of the feeding of the 5,000 and 2 of the feeding of the 4,000. So there are 4 greater feedings of the 5,000 and there are 2 greater feedings of the 4,000. These all form some coherent whole jigsaw in the greater meaning, the word symbolic meaning, by the Parallel Account Principle. The 4 feedings of the 5,000 are 4 distinct separate feedings that employ the same symbolism and form a coherent whole. As are the 2 feedings of the 4,000.
This section is not all correct. Please view it as an out of date work in progress!!
Matthew 14 (5,000) | Matthew 15 (4,000) | Mark 6 (5,000) | Mark 8 (4,000) | Luke 9 (5,000) |
Those in FDS1/WSS1 who do not go to FDS2 and those in FDS3/WSS2 who do not go to FDS4 | FDS2 Bilhah (because women were fed) | Those in FDS1/WSS1 who do go to FDS2 and those in FDS3/WSS2 who do go to FDS4 | FDS2 Zilpah (because the house existed) | Those in FDS1 and FDS2 who are also fed by the food made by Jesus himself during his ministry. Food referred to by John: 25 There are, in fact, many other things also which Jesus did, which, if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose, the world itself could not contain the scrolls written (John 21). The 12 were the primary disseminators of this food. Non scripturally recorded actions and words of Jesus. |
Evening fell, disciples came | Crowd stayed with me 3 days | Hour late | Crowd remained near me 3 days | Day started to decline, the 12 came and said: |
Place is lonely, hour already passed by (KI) | They have nothing to eat | Place isolated hour late | They have nothing to eat | Because lonely place |
Send crowds away to villages to buy eatables | Not send fasting give out on 'way' | Send them into the encircling fields and villages to buy eatables | Not sent to their house fasting, give out on way (to house) (KI) | Dismiss crowd into encircling villages and fields, find lodging and provisions. |
Some from far away | ||||
You feed | Where lonely place enough loaves | You feed | Where isolated place enough loaves | You feed |
Buy 200 Denarii loaves? | ||||
How many loaves | How many loaves have you? Go see! | How many loaves | ||
We have nothing but 5 loaves 2 fishes | 7 and a few little fishes | 5 and 2 fishes | 7 | We have nothing but 5 loaves 2 fishes, |
Unless we buy, there were 5,000 men | ||||
Bring them to me | Symposiums upon green grass, Garden rows of 100 and 50 | Said to disciples: have them recline in groups of 50 | ||
He commanded crowds recline on grass | He instructed crowd recline on ground | He instructed people recline by companies on green grass | He instructed crowd recline on ground | They did so & had them all recline |
took 5 loaves and 2 fishes | Took 7 loaves & fishes (not little fishes) | Took 5 loaves and 2 fishes | Took 7 loaves | Took 5 loaves 2 fishes |
Looked up to heaven, said blessing | Gave thanks and broke them | Looked up to heaven said blessing | Gave thanks and broke them | Looked up to heaven, blessed them |
broke loaves gave them to disciples and they in turn to the crowds | Began distributing to disciples who gave to crowds | Broke loaves gave to disciples to place before people | Began giving to disciples to serve, they served to crowd | Broke them up, began to give to disciples to set before crowd |
Divided up 2 fishes for all | Also they had few little fishes, having blessed, told them to serve too | |||
Surplus of fragments | Surplus of fragments | Fragments (not surplus) | Surpluses of fragments | Surplus (not of fragments) taken up: 12 large baskets of fragments |
12 large baskets (kofinwn) full | 7 hand/provision baskets (sfuridaV) full | 12 large baskets full aside from fishes | 7 hand/provision baskets full | |
Those eating were 5,000 men besides women & boys | Those eating were 4,000 men besides women and boys | Those who ate from the loaves were 5,000 men | There were about 4,000 | |
compelled disciples other side | Sent crowds away | compelled disciples boat opposite shore | Sent them away | |
Sent crowds away | Got boat to Magadan | Sent crowd away himself (KI) | Got boat with disciples, to Dalmanutha |
(KI) means that the NWT (New World Translation) has been amended in accordance with the Greek Kingdom Interlinear Translation. The underlined words (phrases) are repeated in the Greek text (hour late, serve, recline).
The feeding of the 5,000 in John 6 is the odd one out of the 4 feedings:
John 6 (5,000) |
Jesus went up mountain, passover near, sitting with disciples |
Jesus said to Philip: Where buy loaves? Said this to test him |
Philip: 200 Denarii not enough so each one gets a little |
Andrew, brother of Simon Peter, said: |
Boy with 5 barley loaves 2 small fishes (oyaria) : What are these among so many ? |
Jesus said have men recline as at meal |
Lot of grass so men reclined, 5,000 |
Took loaves |
Gave thanks |
He gave to those reclining |
Also as much of the small fishes as they wanted |
Gather together the fragments remaining nothing is wasted |
Filled 12 large baskets with fragments remaining from the barley loaves |
Word count (from Greek):
Matthew 14 (5,000) | Matthew 15 (4,000) | Mark 6 (5,000) | Mark 8 (4,000) | Luke 9 (5,000) | John 6 (4,000) |
Disciples 4x | Disciples 4x | Disciples 3x | Disciples 3x | Disciples 2x | Disciples 3x |
Crowds 4x | Jesus 2x | Crowd 2x | Crowd 4x | Crowd 2x | Jesus 4x |
Loaves 3x | Crowd 3x | Hour 2x | Days 2x | Loaves 2x | Loaves 5x (inc. 2x barley loaves) |
Fishes 2x | Crowds 2x | Loaves 5x | Loaves 3x | Fishes 2x | (Small) fishes 2x |
Loaves 3x | Fishes 4x | Fragments 2x | |||
Fishes 2x | Symposiums 2x | ||||
Garden rows 2x |
As the accounts of the two feedings are both parallel accounts, the repetitions in each separate gospel account are added together to make a total of word repetitions for each feeding miracle account, because due to the parallel account principle of the code (see 'The bible code', section C15), each separate gospel account is part of one whole account in the word symbolism. Here is the total word count for each of the accounts of the feeding miracles.
Feeding of the 5,000:
Symbolic word/phrase | Total Word count |
Disciples | 9x |
Crowds | 4x |
Crowd | 4x |
Loaves | 10x |
Fishes | 8x |
Symposiums | 2x |
Garden rows | 2x |
Feeding of the 4,000:
Symbolic word/phrase | Total Word count |
Disciples | 10x |
Jesus | 6x |
Crowd | 7x |
Crowds | 2x |
Loaves | 11x |
Barley Loaves | 2x |
Days | 2x |
Fishes | 4x |
Small fishes | 2x |
Fragments | 2x |
Before you can understand the greater meaning of all of these feeding miracles, which of course refer to the spiritual feeding of the various flocks in the 4 true Christian religions you need to know the following:
True Christian Religion number | Administration of it: Slave of Matthew 24 or Steward of Luke12 | Abbreviated name (S = Slave or Steward) |
New Covenant Saints in it? | Newer Covenant Saints in it (Bilhah FDS2 or Rachel FDS4) | Presence of Christ, i.e. existence on earth of New Covenant Saints |
1 | Faithful & Discreet Slave 1 | FDS1 | Yes | No | First Presence |
2 | Faithful, Discreet Steward 1 | FDS2 | Until 119Elul (August/September) | Yes | First and after |
3 | Faithful & Discreet Slave 2 | FDS3 | Yes | No | Second Presence |
4 | Faithful, Discreet Steward 2 | FDS4 | Until 2004Elul (August/September) | Yes | Second and after |
For an explanation of the covenants see - [11], [32]. For an explanation of the 4 true Christian religions see [33], [34].
The Main Symbolism
Now before we start, we listen to the words of Jesus spoken to his disciples but written not for them but for us. Beloved reader, this is Jesus speaking to you personally, it is a Reader Question. Take it this way please. He is speaking to you.
9 Do you not yet see the point, or do you not remember the five loaves in the case of the five thousand and how many baskets you took up?
10 Or the seven loaves in the case of the four thousand and how many provision baskets you took up? (Matthew 16).
19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand [men], how many baskets full of fragments you took up? They said to him: Twelve.
20 When I broke the seven for the four thousand [men], how many provision baskets full of fragments did you take up? And they said to him:
Seven.
21 With that he said to them: Do you not yet get the meaning?
(Mark 8).
So, beloved brother or sister, do you not yet see the point? Do you not yet get the meaning? The Key to understanding the symbolism of the feedings of the 5,000 and the 4,000 is the number of provision baskets taken up in each case. Jesus, God, the holy spirit, is telling you this explicitly and directly. It isn’t coded in any knot or obscure twisted symbolism. Now what could these baskets stand for, what could they mean? Joseph has already answered this question in the case of the three baskets of the chief of the bakers (who one presumes made loaves) in Genesis 40:
18 Then Joseph answered and said: This is its interpretation: The three baskets are three days (Genesis 40).
And here his antitype is making the same interpretation as regards the current presence of the Christ:
The word symbolism of all 4 feedings of the 5,000 is as follows:
Recline | Join the True Christian Religion, prepare to eat food |
Ground | True Christian Religion |
Grass (Grows on wet ground) | Water baptised Christians in the true religion |
Recline on the ground | Join as a result of the efforts of the administration (great food, great understandings) |
Recline on the grass | Join as a result of the efforts of the congregation (evangelising) |
Hand Provision basket | ?? |
Large Basket | Year of left over food after the fall of FDS1 or FDS3. |
12 Baskets of fragments | 12 Further watches of FDS2 over sanctified Christians after the first two fishes (119Elul - 455Tishri). |
Surplus of fragments | Food served after the 5th or 7th loaf that is no longer authorised by Jesus. It is past its sell by date. |
Fragments (not said to be surplus) | Left over food after the 5th loaf which is not necessarily unauthorised by Jesus to be distributed. In fact in the first presence it was still authorised and in the second it was not. |
3 days with me | Day of cornerstone (Jesus or Russell), Day of Faithful & Discreet Slave (FDS1 or FDS3), then the day of Faithful Discreet Steward (FDS2 or FDS4). During the first two and the start of the third day they remain with the new covenant saints, Jesus' body in FDS1 or FDS3. |
Nothing to eat | ?? |
Opposite shore/Other side | FDS2 from FDS1 or FDS4 from FDS3, i.e. the next true religion, slave of Matthew to steward of Luke |
Bread | Leavened spiritual food, from the land, understandings prepared by the administration of the 1NC saints. The journalists are the administration the editors are the governing body. |
Fishes | Hidden food, Coded understandings, prepared by the sea, mankind, but caught/edited by the administration of the 2NC saints. The journalists are all of mankind, the editors are the governing body. |
Surrounding Villages | Groups of sanctified Christians, not in any true religion. Villages are other religions, but not God's city, i.e. false religions. |
Surrounding Fields | Personal bible research (a Christian's own food harvested himself from the bible). |
You feed them | Jesus wants New Covenant Saints to feed the sons of Abraham by the 2AC in the congregation as well |
Looked up to heaven and said blessing | Blessed food, distributed under heavenly direction. |
Gave thanks and broke them | Unblessed food, distributed under earthly direction only. |
Took 7 loaves & fishes (not little fishes) | Paul who had fish food, he was the first fish of FDS2 was also in FDS1 at a high level. |
Men | Saints (both men and women), Sanctified under the New covenant (5,000) or a Newer covenant (4,000) |
5,000 men | The 5,000 men of Acts 4:4, the start of FDS1. And the 5,000 men and women who were baptised into the New Covenant from heaven in 1895Tishri by virtue of their having been baptised into the 2AC by the Watchtower through Charles Russell, the Elijah for FDS3. In other words once the membership of the Watchtower had reached 5,000 (which occurred in 1895Tishri) |
Women | Men and women baptised into the 2AC in the congregation who aren't sanctified into either the New or the Newer covenants |
Boys | Water baptised Children, girls or boys (over 5 years old) who are too young to be sanctified (under 20 years old). |
NB. The words 'men' 'women' etc. are only mentioned once in each account. But all the parallel accounts make one giant account symbolism. So in fact the words 'men' and 'women' appear twice.
4 However, many of those who had listened to the speech believed, and the number of the men became about 5,000 (Acts 4).
37 And as he was about to be led into the soldiers' quarters,
Paul said to the military commander: Am I allowed to say something to you? He said: Can you speak Greek?
38 Are you not really the Egyptian who before these days stirred up a sedition and led the 4,000 dagger men out into the wilderness? (Acts 21).
In the literal meaning no, in the symbolic meaning yes.
5 Loaves | 5 feeding programs of the 5 presidents of FDS1 and/or FDS3 |
2 Fishes | 2 feeding programs of the 2 presidents of FDS2 and/or FDS4 who preside whilst the New Covenant Saints were still around |
7 Loaves | ?? |
Symposiums | Individual congregations in FDS2 FDS4, the stewards |
Garden rows (groups) | Individual congregation in FDS1 FDS3, the slaves |
12 baskets of fragments (not said to be surplus) | 12 years after FDS1 has fallen of clean but out of date food 67 - 79 CE |
12 baskets of fragments (said to be surplus) | 12 years after FDS3 falls of unclean food, from 1994Elul to 2006Elul when all false religions are destroyed by the UN. This is the feeding program of the evil salve of Matthew 24 of the general Watchtower members. |
7 baskets of surplus fragments | ?? |
House (Mark 8) | Temple of Newer Covenant Saints |
Way (Mark 6) | FDS1 was called 'the way' |
Groups of 50 and 100 (loaves only) | FDS3 feeds for 100 years from 1895Tishri CE to 1994 CE (100 years inclusively) when it falls. FDS1 feeds for 50 years from 29 CE to 79 CE, 12 years after it falls in 67 Tishri CE |
Groups of 50 (Loaves and fishes) Luke | 100 years from 29Tishri to 128/9, when the second fish ends. Groups of 50 are made 100x from 5,000 men. |
Buy food | Food from a third party. FDS1 takes food from FDS2 as it's own |
200 Denarii | Food from a third party for 200 days. FDS3 takes food from FDS4 as its own, this is probably the 200 cubits of John 21. |
Boat | Holy Spirit |
Dalmanutha with disciples | FDS4 |
Magadan | FDS2 |
Sent crowds away | Jesus rejected that true religion. This occurs for WSS1, WSS2, FDS3. |
5 Barley loaves | 5 watches of FDS3 serving food prepared by Charles Russell and his associates before they became 1NC saints. Barley is harvested before wheat. |
2 small fishes | 2 watches of FDS4 serving coded food prepared by Charles Russell and his associates before the became 1NC saints. Food such as, Daniel 4, the Gentile Times, and the understanding that Jesus is the angel Michael and was elevated to the status of a God to be worshipped and prayed to after he ransomed Adam. Jesus must have loved this man. |
Andrew | Andrew (Peter's Brother) Second presence 1NC saints. |
Peter | First presence 1NC saints |
Philip | Unfaithful 1NC, rotten saints |
Boy | Charles Russell |
Lot of grass | Water baptised Christians. |
Passover | The 1NC was about to be celebrated again on 1888Nisan14, the first Passover in the second presence. |
Jesus went up Mountain | Jesus started forming an administration at the full limit of the appointed times to gather together all things again in the Christ |
12 baskets of fragments from loaves | 12 years from 1994Tammuz to 2006Elul. When the loaf administration ends at the fall of Babylon. |
In the case of FDS3, the Watchtower, the 3rd True Christian Religion, the 5 loaves are the five feeding campaigns under the 5 presidents of FDS3, (Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel). These loaves were broken by Jesus and given to his disciples to give to the crowds. But the baskets of fragments were picked up by the disciples without any involvement by Jesus, and the 5,000 were sent away by Jesus before any food was eaten from the baskets. So the 12 years run from 1994Tammuz30, the disfellowshipping of FDS3 and all the Jehovah’s witnesses by Jesus, until 2006Elul (it is not accurate to the month, just to the year it would appear, as in the case of the 100 years inclusive of food of FDS3 from 1895Tishri to 1994Tammuz). They end in 2006Elul because this is the end of the 7 years of the 7 horns of the lamb as though slaughtered of Revelation 5 see [151], which follow after the 7 years of the 7 eyes of said lamb. And the 7 eyes started in 1992Elul, with the arrival of Gordon's first book at the HQ of the Watchtower in Brooklyn. Gordon realised that the 7 years of the eyes ended in 1999Elul, in the very month of 1999Elul. This was his call to get on the white horse with his bow and start conquering. For the first horseman of the Apocalypse is not Jesus, but is the antetypical Joseph. The current bible decoder. This book/website contains some of his arrows which go over the wall of the Watchtower - Genesis 49:22-26.
The two fishes in the case of FDS4, the last true Christian religion are the feeding programs of the two presidents to the 6th and 7th congregations of Revelation 3, Philadelphia and Laodicea. The first 5 presidents of the Watchtower were the angels of the first 5 congregations Revelation 2,3 (Ephesus to Sardis).
Now the food of the Watchtower was loaves, which come from bread which comes from wheat (which is the remnant) which comes from the land which is the administration. But the food of the Lords' Witnesses, the life, is fish, which is a hidden food, which comes from the waters, and the sea, which is not the administration but is those governed by it. Our food comes from the congregation, not from the administration. It is true that the administration serves it up, but they do not produce it.
The UN wipes out all religious organisations from the planet in 2006Elul. The beast kills the Harlot. This is why the lamb loses power in 2006Elul and this is why in Revelation 18 we read:
10 While they stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say: Too bad, too bad, you great city, Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgement has arrived! (Revelation 18).
16 Saying: Too bad, too bad--the great city, clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet, and richly adorned with gold ornament and precious stone and pearl (Revelation 18).
19 And they threw dust upon their heads and cried out, weeping and mourning, and said: Too bad, too bad--the great city, in which all those having boats at sea became rich by reason of her costliness, because in one hour she has been devastated! (Revelation 18).
Too bad, Too bad. A lament two times. Two years, 2006Elul to 2008Elul, the end of Armageddon, see 163.
Matthew 14 (5,000) | Matthew 15 (4,000) | Mark 6 (5,000) | Mark 8 (4,000) | Luke 9 (5,000) | John (5,000) |
FDS1/FDS3 who don't make it into FDS2/FDS4 |
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FDS1/FDS3 who do make it into FDS2/FDS4 | WSS two servings | Those in FDS1 and FDS2 who are fed by the food made by Jesus himself during his ministry. (he was not a new covenant saint - he never needed to be sanctified). Food not recorded in the bible. | Those in FDS3 and FDS4 who are fed by the food made by Russell himself and his co researchers prior to his sanctification in 1884Tishri. After this date he was a 1NC saint so he was giving out bread. |
The hour has passed by. i.e. a new day has started. Crowds sent away, opposite side, bread but no fish | 7 loaves, loaves given thanks. Also fishes eaten.
Send crowds away |
crowd sent away, opposite side, garden rows of 100 and 50 for the bread through disciples. Then, divided fishes for all (not said to go to 50 100 groups). all includes people who did not get the loaves. | 'House' is the temple of 2NC which only exists in FDS4.
7 loaves WS and few little fishes SS, two servings. Little fishes blessed loves given thanks. Sent them away. |
Groups of about 50 Crowd not sent away boat not opposite side, disciples gave out bread and fish 12 baskets of fragments are 12 more presidents of FDS2 |
Barley is harvested before wheat. Russell was sanctified in 1884Tishri, the rest of the 1NC saints were sanctified between 1895Tishri and 1955Tishri. |
He gave orders to them to recline all [ones] symposiums, symposiums upon the green grass
They fell up garden rows, garden rows, according to 100 and according to 50 (Mark 6).
Recline them in groups, as if up 50 (Luke 9). 100 years from 29Tishri to 128/9, when the second fish ends.
congregations of 50 strong for 100 years. This was FDS3 1895Tishri to 1994Tammuz, followed by 12 years of fragments to 2006Elul.
Congregations of 100 strong for 50 years. This was FDS1 29 to 67 then 12 inclusive of fragments, that is why fragments were not said to be a surplus. So it runs from 29 to 78/9, So all is symposiums which is FDS2 and FDS4 who get fish, and not said to be all is groups and FDS1 FDS3 who get bread.
5,000 are water baptised?
100 times from 29Tishri to 129Tishri when second fish ends in first presence. Then 12 baskets of fragments are 12 more heads of FDS2. So that it had 14 in total over its 388 years (28 years each).
Green grass is water baptised guys. Ground is no grass, no water baptised guys in case of 4,000.
200 Denarii of loaves of Mark are 29 to 119 and 1884 to 1994?
200 Denarii of loaves of John 200 days of the Watchtower providing food developed by FDS4, whilst representing that God will only reveal understandings to them. This period is yet to commence.